From guest Sun Apr 2 07:05:27 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id GAA07468; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 06:42:03 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id GAA07465; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 06:41:57 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA10678; Sun, 2 Apr 95 06:41:01 -0700 Received: from mail.eworld.com by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) for id GAA10317; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 06:41:00 -0700 From: BigPine@eworld.com Received: by hp1.online.apple.com (1.38.193.5/16.2) id AA10531; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 06:40:59 -0700 X-Mailer: AOS Mailer Sender: "BigPine" Message-Id: <9504020640.tn03844@eworld.com> To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Date: Sun, 02 Apr 95 06:40:59 PDT Subject: How do I set origin of MCO? Status: O Hi, I have a deskside Onyx with 2RM's and one MCO. I would like two set two channels of 960x680_60 horizontally. When I use the setmon command the orgins default to monitor1 = (0,0) and monitor2 = (0,680). Is there a unix command so I can set my monitors for the desktop and performer apps to monitor1 = (0,0) and monitor2 = (960,0)? Thanks ahead of time, BigPine From guest Sun Apr 2 19:05:15 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id SAA08096; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 18:42:09 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id SAA08093; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 18:42:09 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA24196; Sun, 2 Apr 95 18:41:13 -0700 Received: from mail06.mail.aol.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) for id SAA16474; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 18:41:11 -0700 From: MacKrell@aol.com Received: by mail06.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA026383270; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 21:41:10 -0400 Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 21:41:10 -0400 Message-Id: <950402214043_69543400@aol.com> To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Employment opportunity. Status: O Coryphaeus Software is a Silicon Graphics Premier Partner that develops state-of-the-art modeling and scene generation tools for the visual simulation market. We currently have an opening for a sales support engineer in our Washington DC office. The position requires a strong knowledge of GL and the Performer API as well as good presentational skills and the ability to interact with customers. Experience in areas such as DIS, visual database modeling tools and formats, terrain modeling techniques and real-time simulation software would be a plus. Potential candidates should send their resumes to... ---------------- US Postal Service ---------------- Coryphaeus Software Inc. 1420 Spring Hill Road Suite 600 McLean, VA 22102 ---------------- E-Mail ---------------- bill@coryphaeus.com Subject: employment (Plain ASCII TEXT only) ---------------- Facsimile ---------------- fax: (703) 918-0394 attn: employment ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Coryphaeus Software is an equal opportunity employer. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From guest Mon Apr 3 07:02:18 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id GAA08888; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 06:44:15 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id GAA08885; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 06:44:10 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA13123; Mon, 3 Apr 95 06:43:22 -0700 Received: from hni.uni-paderborn.de by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) for id GAA25366; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 06:41:57 -0700 Received: from corbusier.uni-paderborn.de (corbusier [131.234.176.9]) by hni.uni-paderborn.de (8.6.10/hni-mailhub) with ESMTP id PAA13749 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 15:41:49 +0200 From: Virtuelles Modellunternehmen Received: (vmu@localhost) by corbusier.uni-paderborn.de (8.6.10/client-irix-hni) id NAA01342 for info-performer@sgi.com; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 13:41:49 GMT Message-Id: <199504031341.NAA01342@corbusier.uni-paderborn.de> Subject: ! Features of Performer 2.0 ! To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 15:41:48 +0200 (MDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 544 Status: O Hello everybody, I have simple questions concerning the new release of Performer. I couldn't find them in the mailing list, so I post them here: 1. Do Performer 2.0 or OpenPerformer base on OpenGL? And if so, do I have to expect severe performance problems? (Because OpenGL is hardware-independent and won't use the Reality-Engine...) 2. What are the new features of Performer 2.0? If I am completely wrong, please correct me. If I missed this questions or I can find them on ftp.sgigate.com, tell me. Thanks in advance, Holger From guest Mon Apr 3 12:36:42 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id MAA00784; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 12:21:17 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id MAA00781; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 12:21:12 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA00423; Mon, 3 Apr 95 12:20:21 -0700 Received: from relay3.UU.NET by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) for id MAA25800; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 12:20:18 -0700 Received: from uucp2.UU.NET by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP id QQyjww10899; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 13:42:22 -0400 Received: from planets.UUCP by uucp2.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 13:42:22 -0400 Received: from cavalier.cambridge.com by ds9 (4.1/SMI-4.1-SWS) id AA12063; Mon, 3 Apr 95 12:35:36 EDT Received: by cavalier.cambridge.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/SMI-4.1-rbj) id MAA09838; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 12:35:35 -0400 From: "Gan Wang" Message-Id: <9504031235.ZM9836@cavalier> Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 12:35:34 -0400 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: pfStatsClass()? Cc: gan@cavalier.cambridge.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O Hi there, I have two pfChannel's within one pfPipeWindow. I am trying to turn graphics stats on for both channels and used for each chan { frameStats = pfGetChanFStats(chan); pfStatsClass(frameStats, PFSTATS_ENGFX, PDSTATS_ON); } However, it gives a warning: Performer Warning: pfOpenStats(pfStats*) for 0x9a7200 ignored Already have a different opened pfStats=0x8620f0 mask=0x1. This always happens unless draw is a separate process: PFMP_FORK_DRAW. What does this mean? Can someone shed some light on it? Gan -- Gan Wang Cambridge Research Associates Office: 703-790-0505 1430 Springhill Road, Suite 200 Fax: 703-790-0370 McLean, VA 22102 Internet: gan@cambridge.com From guest Mon Apr 3 11:17:48 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id LAA09375; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 11:03:38 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id LAA09372; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 11:03:37 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA25714; Mon, 3 Apr 95 11:02:53 -0700 Received: from europa.eng.gtefsd.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) for id LAA07734; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 11:02:50 -0700 Received: from capella.tsc.gtefsd.com.tsc (capella.tsc.gtefsd.com [131.131.32.200]) by europa.eng.gtefsd.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA13842 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 14:02:48 -0400 Received: by capella.tsc.gtefsd.com.tsc (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00811; Mon, 3 Apr 95 14:01:49 EDT Date: Mon, 3 Apr 95 14:01:49 EDT From: fyock@capella.tsc.gtefsd.com (Christina Fyock) Message-Id: <9504031801.AA00811@capella.tsc.gtefsd.com.tsc> To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Highlight & DCS Status: O Hi, I am having a problem highlighting objects that have a DCS node directly above them. I have created a Modelgen DOF bead above a group object. When I get in proximity I want to highlight that object and then animate it using the DOF cabilities built in by modelgen. I also create the exact same object without the DOF bead in the model. I can highlight the object that does not have the DOF/DCS node above it but I can not highlight the one that does. The object with the DOF bead above seems to be correctly getting the pfGeoSet node to highlight and I get no errors when I try to call the pfGSetHlight call, it just seems to ignore it. The animation portion of the DOF/DCS node on this object works correctly, but does not highlight. I know I am getting the right node to highlight. Is this possibly a known error in Performer 1.2? Any help would be appreciated, I have checked and rechecked nodes and confirmed that all the right information is being passed, and since it works on the object that does not have the DCS/DOF object, I am assuming it is a problem with the DOF/DCS node above it. We are running Irix 5.2 on an SGI Skywriter. Thanks, Christina From guest Tue Apr 4 02:21:23 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id CAA16494; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 02:03:38 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id CAA16491; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 02:03:29 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA01642; Tue, 4 Apr 95 02:02:40 -0700 Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) for id CAA13108; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 02:02:35 -0700 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetD-2.5.1.d) via EUnet id LAA09839; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 11:04:23 +0200 Received: by cae-gmbh.de (920330.SGI/920502.SGI) for unido!sgi.com!info-performer id AA01159; Tue, 4 Apr 95 10:59:10 +0200 Date: Tue, 4 Apr 95 10:59:10 +0200 From: root@cae-gmbh.de (0000-Admin(0000)) Message-Id: <9504040859.AA01159@cae-gmbh.de> To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: PFGS_TRISTRIPS Reply-To: dwagner@cae-gmbh.de Status: O Please, can anyone tell me what I must do, to create a pfGeoSet with NON-INDEXED PFGS_TRISTRIPS ? What I tried is: ... ... pfVec4 *colors; pfVec3 *normals, *coords; long *lengths; ... ... /* Creation of the fields colors, normals, coords, and lengths */ pfGSetNumPrims ( gset, 4 ); pfGSetPrimType ( gset, PFGS_TRISTRIPS ); pfGSetPrimLengths ( gset, lengths ); pfGSetAttr ( gset, PFGS_NORMAL3, PFGS_PER_VERTEX, normals, NULL ); pfGSetAttr ( gset, PFGS_COLOR4, PFGS_OVERALL, colors, NULL ); pfGSetAttr ( gset, PFGS_COORD3, PFGS_PER_VERTEX, coords, NULL ); pfAddGSet ( (pfGeode *) geode, gset ); ... ... but it dont works correctly. I print out the GeoSet with pfPrint and I get the first PFGS_TRISTRIPS four times and the others are lost. Thanks! -Dietmar +-----------------------------------------------+ | Dietmar Wagner, CAE Electronics GmbH, Germany | | Tel.: +49-2402-106-333 | | Fax : +49-2402-106-270 | | Email: dwagner@cae-gmbh.de | +-----------------------------------------------+ From guest Tue Apr 4 11:17:03 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id LAA18368; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 11:03:30 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id LAA18345; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 11:03:21 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA14986; Tue, 4 Apr 95 11:02:34 -0700 Received: from dw3f.ess.harris.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) for id LAA10760; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 11:02:18 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dw3f.ess.harris.com (8.6.9/mdb(941103)) with SMTP id OAA19182 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 14:06:11 -0400 Message-Id: <199504041806.OAA19182@dw3f.ess.harris.com> To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: More than one pfScene Date: Tue, 04 Apr 1995 14:06:07 -0400 From: Debbie Bohdal Status: O In my Performer 1.2 application, I would like my interface to have two GLX widgets displaying two different scenes. How do I set up the channel, etc. to do this? Debbie Bohdal dbohdal@dw3f.ess.harris.com From guest Tue Apr 4 12:55:03 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id MAA20235; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 12:41:43 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id MAA20232; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 12:41:43 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA20700; Tue, 4 Apr 95 12:41:33 -0700 Received: from sgihub.corp.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) id MAA01567; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 12:41:32 -0700 Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by sgihub.corp.sgi.com via SMTP (940519.SGI.8.6.9/911001.SGI) id MAA18699; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 12:41:30 -0700 Received: from rose.asd.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for @sgihub.corp.sgi.com:dwagner@cae-gmbh.de id AA20693; Tue, 4 Apr 95 12:41:29 -0700 Received: by rose.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id MAA19730; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 12:41:28 -0700 From: "Sharon Clay (Fischler)" Message-Id: <9504041241.ZM19728@rose.asd.sgi.com> Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 12:41:27 -0700 In-Reply-To: root@cae-gmbh.de (0000-Admin(0000)) "PFGS_TRISTRIPS" (Apr 4, 10:59am) References: <9504040859.AA01159@cae-gmbh.de> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: dwagner@cae-gmbh.de, info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Re: PFGS_TRISTRIPS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O +>---- On Apr 4, 10:59am, 0000-Admin(0000) wrote: > Subject: PFGS_TRISTRIPS ->Please, can anyone tell me what I must do, to create a pfGeoSet with NON-INDEXED ->PFGS_TRISTRIPS ? What I tried is: -> ->... ->... ->pfVec4 *colors; ->pfVec3 *normals, -> *coords; ->long *lengths; -> ->... ->... ->/* Creation of the fields colors, normals, coords, and lengths */ ->pfGSetNumPrims ( gset, 4 ); ->pfGSetPrimType ( gset, PFGS_TRISTRIPS ); ->pfGSetPrimLengths ( gset, lengths ); -> ->pfGSetAttr ( gset, PFGS_NORMAL3, PFGS_PER_VERTEX, normals, NULL ); ->pfGSetAttr ( gset, PFGS_COLOR4, PFGS_OVERALL, colors, NULL ); ->pfGSetAttr ( gset, PFGS_COORD3, PFGS_PER_VERTEX, coords, NULL ); -> ->pfAddGSet ( (pfGeode *) geode, gset ); ->... ->... -> ->but it dont works correctly. I print out the GeoSet with pfPrint and ->I get the first PFGS_TRISTRIPS four times and the others are lost. -> Does it draw? pfPrint in 1.2 always printed out the data from the first strip :-( FYI, additionally, PFLAT_TRISTRIPS didn't print data for vertex attributes correctly. src. -- -----{-----{---@ -----{----{---@ -----{----{---@ -----{----{---@ Sharon Rose Clay (Fischler) - Silicon Graphics, Advanced Graphics Dev. src@sgi.com (415) 390 - 1002 FAX: (415) 965 - 2658 MS 8U-590 -----{-----{---@ -----{----{---@ -----{----{---@ -----{----{---@ From guest Tue Apr 4 16:36:51 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id QAA21883; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 16:21:09 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id QAA21880; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 16:21:08 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA02275; Tue, 4 Apr 95 16:21:04 -0700 Received: from holodeck.asd.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) id QAA18192; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 16:21:02 -0700 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id QAA21877; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 16:20:48 -0700 From: aschaffe (Allan Schaffer) Message-Id: <9504041620.ZM21875@holodeck.asd.sgi.com> Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 16:20:47 -0700 In-Reply-To: turnerm@post.aes.com (Mark Turner) "Is Performer Training Worth It?" (Mar 20, 4:30pm) References: <9503210030.AA13323@ag.aes.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: turnerm@post.aes.com (Mark Turner), info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Re: Is Performer Training Worth It? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O On Mar 20, 4:30pm, Mark Turner wrote: > > I am new to Performer. In fact we haven't even got our machines in > yet. They should be here in about 2 weeks. Is the Performer Training > class by SGI worth the time and money? I've done some GL in the > past, but from what I see posted here Performer seems a bit more > complicated. Although a biased view.. :) I taught a 4-day version of the course while I was in France a few weeks ago, and know for certain that the students (7 or 8) in my class came away from it in pretty good shape. It was a mix of SGI people & customers. I'd say that for the current incarnation of the course, it's important to know some IRIS GL before taking it. It makes all the little tidbits thrown in ("layers are implemented with stencil in the high-quality mode, and displacepolygon in the low-quality mode") much more meaningful, and those details are what really make it valuable. Also, the course I taught was 4 days, which (for me) was just right; I thought that was the standard length but I could be wrong. Typically when the course is taught here in Mountain View, the instructors drop one of us a note and we come by for an hour or two on the last afternoon to talk about new features, answer questions, and so on. We've done it 3 or 4 times now and have gotten very good feedback for doing so. David Marsland (the developer of the course) recently updated the course material, lab assignments, and code samples in a big way -- I used his new updates for the course I taught and the changes were great. If any of you have taken the course and have some feedback (good or bad) I'd like to hear it. email aschaffe@sgi.com Allan -- Allan Schaffer aschaffe@sgi.com Silicon Graphics http://reality.sgi.com/employees/aschaffe From guest Tue Apr 4 16:43:49 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id QAA21968; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 16:30:51 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id QAA21965; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 16:30:50 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA02909; Tue, 4 Apr 95 16:30:45 -0700 Received: from holodeck.asd.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) id QAA20369; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 16:30:42 -0700 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id QAA21958; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 16:30:41 -0700 From: aschaffe (Allan Schaffer) Message-Id: <9504041630.ZM21956@holodeck.asd.sgi.com> Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 16:30:40 -0700 In-Reply-To: hlind@bvu-lads.loral.com (Henrik Lind) "Associating material with texture" (Mar 21, 9:56am) References: <9503211756.AA01518@sparky.bvu-lads.loral.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: hlind@bvu-lads.loral.com (Henrik Lind), info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Re: Associating material with texture Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O On Mar 21, 9:56am, Henrik Lind wrote: > Re: Performer 1.2 > > Hello. I am tasked with associating a material with a sequence of > objects in an animation. The animation is developed by adding > pfGroup's as children to a pfSequence. (this is someone else's code) > > I want to associate a material with the animation and then color it, > by adjusting the material diffuse and ambient. I know how to color > a material, once I have it, but it's the associating of material to > elements of the sequence that I don't know. > > Can you give me direction? A long chain of connections here. Ultimately your pfSequences contain pfGeode nodes at the leaves. pfGeode's contain pfGeoSets' (representing the geometry) and the pfGeoSets refer to a pfGeoState (representing all the state elements like pfMaterial, pfTexture, etc.) More visually.. pfSequence->...->pfGeode\ <- scene graph \ >(pfGeoSet->pfGeoState <- within pfGeode once you have a handle to the pfGeoState, you can create a pfMaterial object and bind the material to the pfGeoState. Another possibility if you don't mind the entire object having the same pfGeoState -- several of the loaders (LoadFlt, etc) allow you to specify a "default" pfGeoState for all of the geosets the loader creates. You just create a (default) pfGeoState and pass it along to the loader. See the function headers for LoadFlt() and others for the details. Allan -- Allan Schaffer aschaffe@sgi.com Silicon Graphics http://reality.sgi.com/employees/aschaffe From guest Tue Apr 4 17:57:30 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id RAA22430; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 17:41:26 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id RAA22427; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 17:41:26 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA07591; Tue, 4 Apr 95 17:41:24 -0700 Received: from holodeck.asd.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) id RAA03374; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 17:41:22 -0700 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id RAA22424; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 17:41:16 -0700 From: aschaffe (Allan Schaffer) Message-Id: <9504041741.ZM22422@holodeck.asd.sgi.com> Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 17:41:15 -0700 In-Reply-To: abrend@idt.unit.no "Sun" (Mar 29, 2:11pm) References: <9503291211.AA02152@vier.idt.unit.no> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: abrend@idt.unit.no, info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Re: Sun Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O On Mar 29, 2:11pm, abrend@idt.unit.no wrote: > > I'm trying to set a sun into my model by using this code in my > 'InitScene' function : > > /* Initialize sun */ > sun = pfNewLSource(); > pfLightColor(sun, 1.0f, 0.0f, 0.0f); > pfLightAmbient(sun, 0.4f, 0.4f, 0.3f); > pfLightPos(sun, 0.0f, 1.0f, 0.0f, 0.0f); > viewState->sun = sun; > pfAddChild(viewState->scene, viewState->sun); > > As you see my light source uses only red light which should be easy to > detect. What more (and where) do I need to get a sun in my model ? > Do I have to turn of the ambient light in the materials in my model ? > How do I do this ? How can I override the default lighting in my > model ? For lighting to work: 1. Lighting must be enabled: pfEnable(PFEN_LIGHTING) 2. A pfLightModel must be applied: pfApplyLModel 3. A pfMaterial must be applied: pfApplyMtl 4. One or more pfLights must be on: pfLightOn 5. Illuminated geometry must have normals: pfGSetAttr, PFGS_NORMAL3 As a quick hack test, add these calls to your pipeline initialization callback: pfEnable (PFEN_LIGHTING); pfApplyMtl(pfNewMtl(pfGetSharedArena())); pfApplyLModel(pfNewLModel(pfGetSharedArena())); Also, take a look at fog.c, earthsky.c, simple.c, text.c, etc. in /usr/src/Performer/src/pguide/libpf/progs; each uses a LightSource. Allan -- Allan Schaffer aschaffe@sgi.com Silicon Graphics http://reality.sgi.com/employees/aschaffe From guest Tue Apr 4 18:20:31 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id SAA22546; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 18:02:15 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id SAA22543; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 18:02:14 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA08590; Tue, 4 Apr 95 18:02:10 -0700 Received: from holodeck.asd.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) id SAA06194; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 18:02:06 -0700 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id SAA22540; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 18:01:56 -0700 From: aschaffe (Allan Schaffer) Message-Id: <9504041801.ZM22538@holodeck.asd.sgi.com> Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 18:01:55 -0700 In-Reply-To: Virtuelles Modellunternehmen "! Features of Performer 2.0 !" (Apr 3, 3:41pm) References: <199504031341.NAA01342@corbusier.uni-paderborn.de> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: Virtuelles Modellunternehmen , info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Re: ! Features of Performer 2.0 ! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O On Apr 3, 3:41pm, Virtuelles Modellunternehmen wrote: > Hello everybody, > > I have simple questions concerning the new release of Performer. I couldn't > find them in the mailing list, so I post them here: > > 1. Do Performer 2.0 or OpenPerformer base on OpenGL? And if so, do I > have to expect severe performance problems? (Because OpenGL is > hardware-independent and won't use the Reality-Engine...) Performance should be fairly good, assuming you're running 5.3 plus an upcoming OpenGL performance & feature patch that should be ready at about the same time. I should temper this statement by saying that this patch is still under development and so not everything has been benchmarked yet. I don't recommend OpenGL-based Performer 2.0 with IRIX 5.2. The performance there was not so good, and most of the RealityEngine extensions had not been implemented then. > 2. What are the new features of Performer 2.0? I'll hold off on this one for the moment, as I don't know what's been confirmed to be announced quite yet. Allan -- Allan Schaffer aschaffe@sgi.com Silicon Graphics http://reality.sgi.com/employees/aschaffe From guest Tue Apr 4 18:53:14 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id SAA22686; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 18:30:30 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id SAA22683; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 18:30:29 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA09983; Tue, 4 Apr 95 18:30:24 -0700 Received: from sgihub.corp.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) id SAA11150; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 18:30:19 -0700 Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by sgihub.corp.sgi.com via SMTP (940519.SGI.8.6.9/911001.SGI) id SAA02590; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 18:30:17 -0700 Received: from surreal.asd.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for @sgihub.corp.sgi.com:mwilliam@ldsa.com id AA09974; Tue, 4 Apr 95 18:30:16 -0700 Received: from localhost by surreal.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id SAA21476; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 18:30:15 -0700 Message-Id: <199504050130.SAA21476@surreal.asd.sgi.com> To: mwilliam@ldsa.com (Micheal J. Williams) Cc: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Re: Picking Scaled Flight Format Models In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 27 Mar 95 16:58:26 EST." <9503272158.AA09957@ldsa.com> Date: Tue, 04 Apr 95 18:30:15 -0700 From: Jim Helman Status: O > When they are scaled to appear larger it seems that the > picking intersection is still computed with the original > size. If I hit very close to the origin I can still select > the model. I just ran a test against 1.2, and picking under a DCS with uniform and nonuniform scales works for me. You need to be aware that the location (PFQHIT_POINT) of the hit is returned in object coordinates (i.e. unscaled). So if you want the result in scene coordinates, the location must be transformed (using PFQHIT_XFORM). However, this would not explain the absence of a hit. rgds, -jim helman jimh@surreal.asd.sgi.com 415/390-1151 From guest Tue Apr 4 18:58:35 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id SAA22762; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 18:42:16 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id SAA22759; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 18:42:10 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA10356; Tue, 4 Apr 95 18:42:02 -0700 Received: from rdgw.rd.tepco.co.jp by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) for id SAA13196; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 18:41:59 -0700 Received: by rdgw.rd.tepco.co.jp (8.6.9/3.3W94092015) id KAA22905; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 10:43:24 +0900 Received: by emm2a.rd.tepco.co.jp (4.1/3.3W94092015) id AA28310; Wed, 5 Apr 95 10:31:23 JST Received: from gekkou.rd.tepco.co.jp (gekkou.rd.tepco.co.jp) by emm.rd.tepco.co.jp (5.0/3.3W94092818) id AA12735; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 10:34:35 --900 Received: from shiden.tepco.co.jp by gekkou.rd.tepco.co.jp (4.1/6.4J.6) id AA00440; Wed, 5 Apr 95 10:31:13 JST Received: from localhost by shiden.tepco.co.jp (4.1/6.4J.6) id AA05168; Wed, 5 Apr 95 10:32:58 JST Message-Id: <9504050132.AA05168@shiden.tepco.co.jp> To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Cc: mitsui@emm.rd.tepco.co.jp Subject: pfMakePerspFrust() Date: Wed, 05 Apr 1995 10:32:57 +0900 From: Hiro Mitsui Content-Length: 597 Status: O Hello, I'd like to use off-axis projection in my Performer 1.2 application. But I can't get an expected FOV. The result of the following codes is, ll[0] != left ur[0] != right ll[2] != bottom ur[2] != top while all of them should be equations according to the manual. ---- pfChannel *chan; pfVec3f ll,lr,ul,ur; chan = pfNewChan(); pfChanAutoAspect(chan,PFFRUST_CALC_NONE); pfMakePerspFrust(chan,left,right,bottom,top); pfChanNearFar(chan,0.1f,1000.f); pfGetFrustNear(chan,ll,lr,ul,ur); ---- Can anybody explain this problem? Thanks in advance. -Hiro Mitsui mitsui@rd.tepco.co.jp From guest Tue Apr 4 21:12:25 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id UAA23355; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 20:56:46 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id UAA23352; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 20:56:46 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA14705; Tue, 4 Apr 95 20:56:44 -0700 Received: from sgihub.corp.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) id UAA27751; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 20:56:42 -0700 Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by sgihub.corp.sgi.com via SMTP (940519.SGI.8.6.9/911001.SGI) id UAA09030; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 20:50:00 -0700 Received: from surreal.asd.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for @sgihub.corp.sgi.com:BigPine@eworld.com id AA14543; Tue, 4 Apr 95 20:49:52 -0700 Received: from localhost by surreal.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id UAA25897; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 20:49:47 -0700 Message-Id: <199504050349.UAA25897@surreal.asd.sgi.com> To: BigPine@eworld.com Cc: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Re: How do I set origin of MCO? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 02 Apr 95 06:40:59 PDT." <9504020640.tn03844@eworld.com> Date: Tue, 04 Apr 95 20:49:43 -0700 From: Jim Helman Status: O > When I use the setmon command the orgins default to monitor1 = (0,0) > and monitor2 = (0,680). Is there a unix command so I can set my > monitors for the desktop and performer apps to monitor1 = (0,0) and > monitor2 = (960,0)? The layout of screens within the framebuffer is fixed for any particular MCO video format. rgds, -jim helman jimh@surreal.asd.sgi.com 415/390-1151 From guest Tue Apr 4 21:12:51 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id UAA23364; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 20:58:47 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id UAA23361; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 20:58:35 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA14744; Tue, 4 Apr 95 20:58:17 -0700 Received: from vsl.ist.ucf.edu by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) for id UAA28077; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 20:58:15 -0700 Received: from onyx.vsl.ist.ucf.edu by vsl.ist.ucf.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00498; Tue, 4 Apr 95 23:59:45 EDT Received: by onyx.vsl.ist.ucf.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9) id XAA22145; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 23:59:43 -0400 Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 23:59:42 -0400 (EDT) From: "Lance R. Marrou" To: Jim Helman Cc: "Micheal J. Williams" , info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Re: Picking Scaled Flight Format Models In-Reply-To: <199504050130.SAA21476@surreal.asd.sgi.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O On Tue, 4 Apr 1995, Jim Helman wrote: > > When they are scaled to appear larger it seems that the > > picking intersection is still computed with the original > > size. If I hit very close to the origin I can still select > > the model. > > I just ran a test against 1.2, and picking under a DCS with > uniform and nonuniform scales works for me. You need to be > aware that the location (PFQHIT_POINT) of the hit is > returned in object coordinates (i.e. unscaled). So if you > want the result in scene coordinates, the location must be > transformed (using PFQHIT_XFORM). However, this would not > explain the absence of a hit. > I forgot what the original post was (if anything more than the above), but make sure the bounding box/sphere is reset for the DCS. That is, do not have the following: pfNodeBSphere(dcs, &sph, PFN_BMODE_STATIC); You can make sure the node has a dynamic bounding sphere/box with: pfNodeBSphere(dcs, NULL, PFN_BMODE_DYNAMIC); ______________________________________________________________________________ /\ ______ /\____ ______ ______ E-mail: marrou@vsl.ist.ucf.edu Visual / / / _ / / __ // ____// ____/ VSL: (407)658-5073 Systems / /__ / /_/ / / / / // /___ / __/_ R. Marrou Fax: (407)658-5059 Lab /____//____/\\/_/ /_//_____//_____/ http://www.vsl.ist.ucf.edu/~marrou "Reap the whirlwind." "We don't need no thought control." From guest Wed Apr 5 02:54:48 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id CAA23770; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 02:39:05 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id CAA23767; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 02:39:05 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA22186; Wed, 5 Apr 95 02:39:04 -0700 Received: from warrane.connect.com.au by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) id CAA24420; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 02:38:50 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by warrane.connect.com.au with UUCP id RAA17970 (8.6.11/IDA-1.6); Wed, 5 Apr 1995 17:51:00 +1000 Received: from aggro (aggro_e) by zebedee.wormald.com.au with SMTP id AA10403 (5.65c/IDA-1.5); Wed, 5 Apr 1995 17:12:27 +1000 Received: from homer by aggro with SMTP id AA03155 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Wed, 5 Apr 1995 17:12:51 +1000 Received: by homer (5.65) id AA30789; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 17:12:50 +1000 Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 17:12:46 +1000 (EST) From: Kathy Loynes Subject: Re: ! Features of Performer 2.0 ! To: Allan Schaffer Cc: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <9504041801.ZM22538@holodeck.asd.sgi.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O On Tue, 4 Apr 1995, Allan Schaffer wrote: > On Apr 3, 3:41pm, Virtuelles Modellunternehmen wrote: > > 2. What are the new features of Performer 2.0? > > I'll hold off on this one for the moment, as I don't know what's been > confirmed to be announced quite yet. > Can I add yet another voice to those requesting more information about the release date and contents of Performer 2.0 ? Requests for this information have been appearing regularly on this mailing list over the last couple of months. However, no information ever seems to be forthcoming. What is also kind of frustrating is that the Performer team in Mountain View seem to be answering more & more questions with mail along the lines of "that functionality will be provided in (work better in) Performer 2.0". It all sounds wonderful but when will we see it ? If you really can't provide the planned release date (even "we're aiming for month xxx" would be nice !), could you at least provide an estimate of how much longer it might take to finalise when the release date will be ? Thanks in advance. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kathy Loynes | Wormald Technology kathyl@wormald.com.au | Advanced Systems Engineering Ph: +61 2 981 0611 | Sydney, Australia From guest Wed Apr 5 04:20:22 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id EAA23897; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 04:05:36 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id EAA23894; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 04:05:35 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA23531; Wed, 5 Apr 95 04:05:34 -0700 Received: from goya.eunet.es by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) for id EAA29440; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 04:05:17 -0700 Received: (uucp@localhost) by goya.eunet.es (8.6.10/13.07) id MAA03454 for info-performer@sgi.com; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 12:52:30 +0200 Received: by INDY3.comarts.es (920330.SGI/5.3) id AA03749 for info-performer@sgi.com; Wed, 5 Apr 95 11:35:59 GMT Date: Wed, 5 Apr 95 11:35:59 GMT From: "Nacho Sanz-Pastor Computer Arts + Developments VISSIM Div." Message-Id: <9504051135.AA03749@INDY3.comarts.es> To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: texture memory Status: O Hi, We have some small doubts that maybe someone could help solve: Is there a way to use detail textures that are smaller than 256 by 256 texels in size ? Is this a bug in detail tex ? How are mip maps organized in the two banks in the RE2 texture memory ( ordering, padding, ... ) ? When you load bilinear textures, they go to each bank interleaved, in texdef order, one to each bank ? When you mix bilinear and mipmapped, how efficient is memory distribution ? Is it best to first load all bilinear, then mipmapped ? Thank you in advance for all your help. Nacho Sanz-Pastor nacho@comarts.es Computer Arts & Developments Anita Vindel 10 bajo 28023 Madrid Spain tel ++ 34 1 357 27 51 fax ++ 34 1 307 03 39 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Computer Arts & Developments Visual Simulation Group An asteriod has crashed on Earth, and the Dinosaurs are close to being extinct ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From guest Wed Apr 5 06:26:53 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id GAA24154; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 06:08:04 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id GAA24147; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 06:07:59 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA25762; Wed, 5 Apr 95 06:07:58 -0700 Received: from ligsg10.epfl.ch by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) for id GAA09217; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 06:07:20 -0700 Received: by ligsg10.epfl.ch (Smail3.1.29.1 #28) id m0rwUnh-0000IPC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 15:07 MET DST Message-Id: Date: Wed, 5 Apr 95 15:07 MET DST From: matomira@lig.di.epfl.ch (Fernando D. Mato Mira) To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: pfiv Reply-To: matomira@epfl.ch Status: O Hello, It seems that pfiv 1.3 is not useful for loading stand-alone materials, textures, etc. I know this is trivial, but it just calling LoadFile would be much nicer than calling Inventor and copying each field from a SoMaterial into a pfMaterial. Also, do you throw away node names? It would be cool to be able to reach nodes by (hierarchical) names. Maybe something like X resources.. (but don't forget stuff can get reparented) Thanks in advance, Fernando D. Mato Mira http://ligwww.epfl.ch/matomira.html Computer Graphics Lab Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (EPFL) Phone : +41 (21) 693 - 5248 CH-1015 Lausanne FAX : +41 (21) 693 - 5328 Switzerland E-mail : matomira@di.epfl.ch "The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -Ludwig Wittgenstein From guest Wed Apr 5 06:51:47 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id GAA24315; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 06:30:24 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id GAA24312; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 06:30:19 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA26155; Wed, 5 Apr 95 06:30:18 -0700 Received: from holodeck.asd.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) id GAA11192; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 06:30:11 -0700 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id GAA24256; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 06:24:17 -0700 From: aschaffe (Allan Schaffer) Message-Id: <9504050624.ZM24254@holodeck.asd.sgi.com> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 06:24:17 -0700 In-Reply-To: "Nacho Sanz-Pastor Computer Arts + Developments VISSIM Div." "texture memory" (Apr 5, 11:35am) References: <9504051135.AA03749@INDY3.comarts.es> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: "Nacho Sanz-Pastor Computer Arts + Developments VISSIM Div." , info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Re: texture memory Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O On Apr 5, 11:35am, Nacho Sanz-Pastor Computer Arts + Developments VI wrote: > > Is there a way to use detail textures that are smaller than 256 by 256 > texels in size ? Is this a bug in detail tex ? no, 256x256 is the only choice; officially (according to the man page) it's listed as a bug, but I'd consider it to be more of a design decision. I'll hazard a guess that this restriction will never be changed for RE/RE2/VTX (at least for IRIS GL). > How are mip maps organized in the two banks in the RE2 texture memory > ( ordering, padding, ... ) ? don't know. > When you load bilinear textures, they go to > each bank interleaved, in texdef order, one to each bank ? Anytime a texture is loaded it goes to every bank (ie, to each RM board). Guessing again, I assume the ordering is texdef order unless a texture has been "idled", in which case it might go into the "idled" slot if it fits. > When you mix bilinear and mipmapped, how efficient is memory distribution? > Is it best to first load all bilinear, then mipmapped ? don't know. Allan -- Allan Schaffer aschaffe@sgi.com Silicon Graphics http://reality.sgi.com/employees/aschaffe From guest Wed Apr 5 07:24:00 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id GAA24482; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 06:57:41 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id GAA24479; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 06:57:33 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA26619; Wed, 5 Apr 95 06:57:32 -0700 Received: from dove.cf.ac.uk by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) for id GAA13554; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 06:57:23 -0700 Received: from thorarchive.cf.ac.uk by dove.cf.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <29190-0@dove.cf.ac.uk>; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 14:57:14 +0100 Pp-Warning: Illegal Received field on preceding line Pp-Warning: Illegal Via field on preceding line Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 14:47:14 +0100 (BST) From: ROY RUDDLE Reply-To: Ruddle@cardiff.ac.uk To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Anti-alias on single RM board Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O For a Crimson RE with single RM4 board. I know I cannot AA on 1280x1024 and I know how to AA on (say) VGA - just reboot and switch Performer AA on (the pixel depth defaults to medium in this format. Can anyone tell me the following/mail me example code: I want to run in 1280x1024, with a single Performer VGA graphics window. I would like that window anti-aliased. How do I reconfigure the pixel depth so I can do this? cheers roy ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Roy Ruddle, Principal Researcher | School of Psychology Tel: 01222 874523 (direct) | University of Wales College of Cardiff 01222 874007 (messages) | PO Box 901 Fax: 01222 874858 | Cardiff CF1 3YG Email: Ruddle@CARDIFF.AC.UK | UK From guest Wed Apr 5 08:25:48 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id IAA24673; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 08:06:45 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id IAA24670; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 08:06:45 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA28640; Wed, 5 Apr 95 08:06:40 -0700 Received: from sgihub.corp.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) id IAA22055; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 08:06:36 -0700 Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by sgihub.corp.sgi.com via SMTP (940519.SGI.8.6.9/911001.SGI) id IAA06781; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 08:06:32 -0700 Received: from babar.asd.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@sgi.sgi.com id AA28610; Wed, 5 Apr 95 08:06:15 -0700 Received: by babar.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id IAA12946; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 08:06:06 -0700 From: "Michael Jones" Message-Id: <9504050806.ZM12944@babar.asd.sgi.com> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 08:06:06 -0700 In-Reply-To: Kathy Loynes "Re: ! Features of Performer 2.0 !" (Apr 5, 5:12pm) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: IRIS Performer 2.0 Update Cc: Virtuelles Modellunternehmen , Kathy Loynes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O Several people have been asking about the IRIS Performer 2.0 release schedule. Even though experience has made me reluctant to say too much about future product release dates, I am now able to answer several of the common questions that have been asked. First, here are some major new features in IRIS Performer 2.0: o Supports IrisGL and OpenGL o Supports 32-bit (R3000 & R4000) and 64-bit (R8000) applications o Provides both C and C++ APIs o Asynchronous database paging from disk o Dynamic Shared Object linking is default (changes file loading) o Robust X-Window system integration o Loaders for even more database formats (incl. OpenInventor 2.0) o Improved LOD and LightPoint handling o Support for indexed GeoStates On the topic of schedules and dates, here's where we are: o The IRIS Performer 2.0 alpha is in the hands of a half-dozen brave developers. They are helping us refine certain API and usage issues that we were unsure about. They have had it for about six weeks. o The IRIS Performer 2.0 beta testing effort will be underway soon with these same developers. This is a sanity check of the changes made since the alpha release. o The IRIS Performer 2.0 release is planned to ship in June 1995 to all cusomers on software maintenance and for new orders. In a recent email, Kathy Loynes wrote: :Can I add yet another voice to those requesting more information :about the release date and contents of Performer 2.0 ? Requests for :this information have been appearing regularly on this mailing list :over the last couple of months. However, no information ever :seems to be forthcoming. This lapse is my fault. I answered several requests by reply email, but was not ready to respond in soap-box mode. Please forgive me. The information above is a good view of release plans as they stand at this moment, and I will make sure that any change to this information is communicated via the info-performer mailing list. One aspect of this committment is the fact that the team now has a Minister of Propaganda, Ralph Humphries, who is very keen to see that accurate and updated information is always available. (Feel free to contact Ralph directly for even more details at "ralphh@asd.sgi.com" or 415-390-1025) Michael Jones -- Be seeing you, Phone:415.390.1455 Fax:415.965.2658 M/S:8U-590 Michael T. Jones Silicon Graphics, Advanced Graphics Division mtj@sgi.com 2011 N. Shoreline Blvd., Mtn. View, CA 94039-7311 From guest Wed Apr 5 08:36:18 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id IAA24719; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 08:20:04 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id IAA24716; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 08:20:03 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA29163; Wed, 5 Apr 95 08:20:03 -0700 Received: from sgihub.corp.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) id IAA24403; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 08:19:54 -0700 Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by sgihub.corp.sgi.com via SMTP (940519.SGI.8.6.9/911001.SGI) id IAA08393; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 08:19:41 -0700 Received: from babar.asd.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for @sgihub.corp.sgi.com:Ruddle@cardiff.ac.uk id AA29150; Wed, 5 Apr 95 08:19:27 -0700 Received: by babar.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id IAA13277; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 08:19:18 -0700 From: "Michael Jones" Message-Id: <9504050819.ZM13275@babar.asd.sgi.com> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 08:19:18 -0700 In-Reply-To: ROY RUDDLE "Anti-alias on single RM board" (Apr 5, 2:47pm) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: Ruddle@cardiff.ac.uk, info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Re: Anti-alias on single RM board Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O On Apr 5, 2:47pm, ROY RUDDLE wrote: > Subject: Anti-alias on single RM board :For a Crimson RE with single RM4 board. : :I know I cannot AA on 1280x1024 and I know how to AA on (say) VGA - just :reboot and switch Performer AA on (the pixel depth defaults to medium in :this format. : :Can anyone tell me the following/mail me example code: : :I want to run in 1280x1024, with a single Performer VGA graphics window. I :would like that window anti-aliased. How do I reconfigure the pixel depth :so I can do this? This is not possible. The entire frame buffer must have the same pixel depth. Your choices are to have full-screen low-resolution as you mention, live without anti-aliasing, or to buy an extra Raster Manager. -- Be seeing you, Phone:415.390.1455 Fax:415.965.2658 M/S:8U-590 Michael T. Jones Silicon Graphics, Advanced Graphics Division mtj@sgi.com 2011 N. Shoreline Blvd., Mtn. View, CA 94039-7311 From guest Wed Apr 5 11:17:14 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id LAA25043; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 11:03:21 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id LAA25040; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 11:03:16 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA06273; Wed, 5 Apr 95 11:03:14 -0700 Received: from sgihub.corp.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) id LAA20805; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 11:01:37 -0700 Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by sgihub.corp.sgi.com via SMTP (940519.SGI.8.6.9/911001.SGI) id KAA00497; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 10:51:17 -0700 Received: from faith.asd.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for @sgihub.corp.sgi.com:nacho@comarts.es id AA05807; Wed, 5 Apr 95 10:51:11 -0700 Received: by faith.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id KAA17376; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 10:51:06 -0700 From: "Chris Tanner" Message-Id: <9504051051.ZM17374@faith.asd.sgi.com> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 10:51:05 -0700 In-Reply-To: "Nacho Sanz-Pastor Computer Arts + Developments VISSIM Div." "texture memory" (Apr 5, 11:35am) References: <9504051135.AA03749@INDY3.comarts.es> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: "Nacho Sanz-Pastor Computer Arts + Developments VISSIM Div." , info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Re: texture memory Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O On Apr 5, 11:35am, Nacho Sanz-Pastor Computer Arts + Developments VI wrote: > Subject: texture memory > > > Hi, > > We have some small doubts that maybe someone could help solve: > > Is there a way to use detail textures that are smaller than 256 by 256 > texels in size ? Is this a bug in detail tex ? Yes, it is a bug... > > How are mip maps organized in the two banks in the RE2 texture memory > ( ordering, padding, ... ) ? When you load bilinear textures, they go to > each bank interleaved, in texdef order, one to each bank ? I believe, the initial level goes into the least populated bank. Then, each mipmap level alternates. ie: level 0 -> Bank A level 1 -> Bank B level 2 -> Bank A level 3 -> Bank B etc. switch A and B based on the least populated current bank when downloading the texture. Currently the only padding is the finest mipmap level (1 x 1) is stored as a (4x4) texel map. Dont know for sure about the bilinear textures, but Id assume that they would go to the least populated bank...Keep in mind that this gets more complicated as things get swapped into and out of texture memory - ie Im not sure if the texture manager really might use a "best fit". If you really need to know I can find out. (For those of you who didnt understand the banking issue, each RM board has two texture memory "banks" the account of half of texture memory. Depending of the type of texture storage required bilinear, bicubic,3d, mipmap, etc. the textures are layed out differently accross the 2 texture memory banks...In general this shouldnt make any differences to users, but if you are trying to squeeze every byte out of your texture memory and are experiencing fragmentation...) > > When you mix bilinear and mipmapped, how efficient is memory distribution ? > Is it best to first load all bilinear, then mipmapped ? That probably makes the most sense ie bilinears first, and then mipmaps. > > Thank you in advance for all your help. > > > > Nacho Sanz-Pastor nacho@comarts.es > Computer Arts & Developments > Anita Vindel 10 bajo > 28023 Madrid Spain > tel ++ 34 1 357 27 51 fax ++ 34 1 307 03 39 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Computer Arts & Developments Visual Simulation Group > > An asteriod has crashed on Earth, and the Dinosaurs are close to being extinct > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >-- End of excerpt from Nacho Sanz-Pastor Computer Arts + Developments VI -- _____________________________________________________________ Chris Tanner (cct@faith.asd.sgi.com) Silicon Graphics - Advanced Graphics Division _____________________________________________________________ From guest Wed Apr 5 11:55:09 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id LAA25139; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 11:42:12 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id LAA25136; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 11:42:12 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA08710; Wed, 5 Apr 95 11:42:11 -0700 Received: from sgihub.corp.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) id LAA28858; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 11:42:07 -0700 Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by sgihub.corp.sgi.com via SMTP (940519.SGI.8.6.9/911001.SGI) id LAA08920; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 11:42:06 -0700 Received: from faith.asd.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for @sgihub.corp.sgi.com:nacho@comarts.es id AA08697; Wed, 5 Apr 95 11:42:05 -0700 Received: by faith.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id LAA17610; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 11:42:03 -0700 From: "Chris Tanner" Message-Id: <9504051142.ZM17608@faith.asd.sgi.com> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 11:42:02 -0700 In-Reply-To: "Chris Tanner" "Re: texture memory" (Apr 5, 10:51am) References: <9504051135.AA03749@INDY3.comarts.es> <9504051051.ZM17374@faith.asd.sgi.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: "Nacho Sanz-Pastor Computer Arts + Developments VISSIM Div." , info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Re: texture memory Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O On Apr 5, 10:51am, Chris Tanner wrote: > Currently the only padding is the finest mipmap level (1 x 1) is stored as a > (4x4) texel map. woops I meant stored as 2x2 (4 total texels) and I meant coarset mipmap level. Argh, I hate mornings. such that the previous sentence should read... Currently the only padding is the coursest mipmap level (1 x 1) is stored as a (4x4) texel map. >-- End of excerpt from Chris Tanner -- _____________________________________________________________ Chris Tanner (cct@faith.asd.sgi.com) Silicon Graphics - Advanced Graphics Division _____________________________________________________________ From guest Wed Apr 5 11:56:19 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id LAA25144; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 11:43:42 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id LAA25141; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 11:43:41 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA08787; Wed, 5 Apr 95 11:43:37 -0700 Received: from trout.nosc.mil by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) for id LAA29160; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 11:43:34 -0700 Received: from marlin.nosc.mil by trout.nosc.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22669; Wed, 5 Apr 95 11:43:31 PDT Received: by marlin.nosc.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11012; Wed, 5 Apr 95 11:43:43 PDT Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 11:43:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "B. Cabrera" To: PERFORMER Subject: unsubscribe Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O unsubscribe From guest Wed Apr 5 19:39:40 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id TAA26822; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 19:21:19 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id TAA26819; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 19:21:15 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA03804; Wed, 5 Apr 95 19:21:12 -0700 Received: from warrane.connect.com.au by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) for id TAA05636; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 19:21:01 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by warrane.connect.com.au with UUCP id MAA23230 (8.6.11/IDA-1.6); Thu, 6 Apr 1995 12:20:35 +1000 Received: from aggro (aggro_e) by zebedee.wormald.com.au with SMTP id AA16317 (5.65c/IDA-1.5); Thu, 6 Apr 1995 11:34:34 +1000 Received: from homer by aggro with SMTP id AA04355 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Thu, 6 Apr 1995 11:35:01 +1000 Received: by homer (5.65) id AA31685; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 11:35:00 +1000 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 11:34:59 +1000 (EST) From: Simon Bennett Subject: Re: Anti-alias on single RM board To: Ruddle@cardiff.ac.u Cc: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <9504050819.ZM13275@babar.asd.sgi.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O On Wed, 5 Apr 1995, Michael Jones wrote: > On Apr 5, 2:47pm, ROY RUDDLE wrote: > > Subject: Anti-alias on single RM board > :For a Crimson RE with single RM4 board. > : > :I know I cannot AA on 1280x1024 and I know how to AA on (say) VGA - just > :reboot and switch Performer AA on (the pixel depth defaults to medium in > :this format. > : > :Can anyone tell me the following/mail me example code: > : > :I want to run in 1280x1024, with a single Performer VGA graphics window. I > :would like that window anti-aliased. How do I reconfigure the pixel depth > :so I can do this? > > This is not possible. The entire frame buffer must have the same pixel > depth. Your choices are to have full-screen low-resolution as you mention, > live without anti-aliasing, or to buy an extra Raster Manager. If a Crimson RE with one RM acts the same as an Onyx with VTX graphics then you'll be able to get multi-sampling at a resolution of 960x680 - which although not 1280x1024 (it's half the total pixels) is still higher than VGA.... You'll have to do a setmon -x and restart the graphics and/or logout for it to take effect... +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Simon Bennett simonb@wormald.com.au Wormald Technology Advanced Systems Engineering Ph: +61 2 981 0611 (x512) Computer Terms: hardware - the part of a computer system that one can kick From guest Wed Apr 5 19:57:02 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id TAA26847; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 19:39:49 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id TAA26844; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 19:39:48 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA04232; Wed, 5 Apr 95 19:39:48 -0700 Received: from iss.nus.sg by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) for id TAA07993; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 19:39:44 -0700 Received: from mongoose.iss.nus.sg by iss.nus.sg (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA14188; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 10:41:51 +0800 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 10:41:51 +0800 From: fair@iss.nus.sg (Kim Michael Fairchild) Message-Id: <9504060241.AA14188@iss.nus.sg> Received: by mongoose.iss.nus.sg (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12570; Thu, 6 Apr 95 10:41:47 SST Cc: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: head tracked stereo and two window stereo Status: O Hi, We have been working on getting Derring's head-tracked-stereo working but seem to have a confusing bug to figure out. Has anyone got the algo. working with Performer (or w/o). We implemented the interleaved stereo mode needed by stereographics and now would like to do the two window version needed for HMDs. Does anyone have some code showing how to do this? thanks, Kim. From guest Thu Apr 6 02:46:01 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id CAA27599; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 02:28:42 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id CAA27596; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 02:28:42 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA11675; Thu, 6 Apr 95 02:28:43 -0700 Received: from ligsg10.epfl.ch by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) for id CAA05672; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 02:28:38 -0700 Received: by ligsg10.epfl.ch (Smail3.1.29.1 #28) id m0rwnrg-0000yOC; Thu, 6 Apr 95 11:28 MET DST From: "Fernando D. Mato Mira" Message-Id: <9504061128.ZM3035@lig.di.epfl.ch> Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 11:28:35 +0200 In-Reply-To: "Chris Tanner" "Re: texture memory" (Apr 5, 10:51am) References: <9504051135.AA03749@INDY3.comarts.es> <9504051051.ZM17374@faith.asd.sgi.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Re: texture memory Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O On Apr 5, 10:51am, Chris Tanner wrote: > > Is there a way to use detail textures that are smaller than 256 by 256 > > texels in size ? Is this a bug in detail tex ? > Yes, it is a bug... And the odds of this getting fixed (for OpenGL) in a 5.x (not in a 6.y) before Spring '97 approach zero? From guest Thu Apr 6 07:22:37 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id HAA27829; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 07:07:10 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id HAA27826; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 07:07:09 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA15807; Thu, 6 Apr 95 07:07:03 -0700 Received: from goya.eunet.es by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) for id HAA22970; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 07:06:29 -0700 Received: (uucp@localhost) by goya.eunet.es (8.6.10/13.07) id PAA16394 for info-performer@sgi.com; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 15:58:53 +0200 Received: by INDY3.comarts.es (920330.SGI/5.3) id AA04832 for info-performer@sgi.com; Thu, 6 Apr 95 14:53:17 GMT Date: Thu, 6 Apr 95 14:53:17 GMT From: "Nacho Sanz-Pastor Computer Arts + Developments VISSIM Div." Message-Id: <9504061453.AA04832@INDY3.comarts.es> To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Huge detail tex Status: O On Thu, 6 Apr 1995, 11:28:35, Fernando D. Mato Mira wrote: >And the odds of this getting fixed (for OpenGL) in a 5.x (not in a 6.y) >before Spring '97 approach zero? We are (sadly) expecting a no as an answer, my guess is that this size limitation is a byproduct of how texture is accessed and organized in RE memory, and fixing would probably mean changing a lot of microcode. Just wanted to confirm. Anyway, 256x256 detail textures look like a really nice waste of texture mem, one of the most precious resources on the planet. We'll have to live with that .... Nacho Sanz-Pastor nacho@comarts.es Computer Arts & Developments Anita Vindel 10 bajo 28023 Madrid Spain tel ++ 34 1 357 27 51 fax ++ 34 1 307 03 39 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Computer Arts & Developments Visual Simulation Group An asteriod has crashed on Earth, and the Dinosaurs are close to being extinct ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From guest Thu Apr 6 09:48:58 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id JAA28041; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 09:03:39 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id JAA28038; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 09:03:35 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA19387; Thu, 6 Apr 95 09:03:22 -0700 Received: from chenas.inria.fr by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) for id JAA08897; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 09:03:10 -0700 Received: from syseca.fr ([192.93.110.126]) by chenas.inria.fr (5.65c8d/92.02.29) via Fnet-EUnet id AA02482; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 18:02:42 +0200 (MET) Received: from anna by syseca.fr (4.1/SMU-4.0 22/11/92 Syseca) id AA01362; Thu, 6 Apr 95 18:04:05 +0200 Received: by anna (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@sgi.com id AA08127; Thu, 6 Apr 95 18:00:20 +0200 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 95 18:00:20 +0200 From: gce@syseca.fr (Cedric Gautier) Message-Id: <9504061600.AA08127@anna> To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: SoTransform in new 1.3 Inventor loader ... Status: O Hi ... I have just a little question about how to retains a DCS for a dynamic transformation when an SoTransform is encountered in a Inventor file ... because my differents trys seems not to work ! ... Is that some kind of : DEF DCS Transform { translation 0 0 0 rotation 0 0 1 0 scaleFactor 1 1 1 scaleOrientation 0 0 1 0 center 0 0 0 } or DEF DCSfoo Transform { translation 0 0 0 rotation 0 0 1 0 scaleFactor 1 1 1 scaleOrientation 0 0 1 0 center 0 0 0 } or something else ? ... and what about using SoTranslation, SoRotation, SoRotationXYZ, SoScale for marking another type of DCS ! ... I tryed the simple following exemple with a pfuTravPrintNodes after to get the name and type of performer nodes but it seems not to work ! ... What am I doing wrong that way : #Inventor V2.0 ascii DEF DCSfoo Transform { translation 0 0 0 rotation 0 0 1 45 scaleFactor 1 1 1 scaleOrientation 0 0 1 0 center 0 0 0 } Cube { width 2 height 2 depth 2 } or that way #Inventor V2.0 ascii DEF DCS Transform { translation 0 0 0 rotation 0 0 1 45 scaleFactor 1 1 1 scaleOrientation 0 0 1 0 center 0 0 0 } DEF foo Cube { width 2 height 2 depth 2 } No DCS is found in the performer tree ! ... So where have I to put "DCS" or "dcs" in the file to make the loader recognize it as a DCS ? ... Thank's for any remarks ... Cedric gce@syseca.fr From guest Thu Apr 6 09:48:57 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id JAA28036; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 09:03:30 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id JAA28033; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 09:03:29 -0700 Received: from althea.asd.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA19400; Thu, 6 Apr 95 09:03:29 -0700 Received: by althea.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer id JAA24422; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 09:03:27 -0700 From: "Ralph Humphries" Message-Id: <9504060903.ZM24420@althea.asd.sgi.com> Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 09:03:27 -0700 X-Mailer: Z-Mail-SGI (3.0S.1026 26oct93 MediaMail) To: info-performer@althea Subject: subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: O subscribe -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph Humphries Silicon Graphics, Inc. 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Shoreline Blvd. Real-Time Computing Mountain View, CA 94039 415-390-1025 From guest Thu Apr 6 10:14:42 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id KAA28133; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 10:01:20 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id KAA28130; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 10:01:15 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA01994; Thu, 6 Apr 95 10:01:11 -0700 Received: from relay.iunet.it by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) for id JAA18438; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 09:59:50 -0700 Received: from hpdtmt2.UUCP by relay.iunet.it with UUCP id AA02416 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4 for info-performer%sgi.com@iunet.it); Thu, 6 Apr 1995 19:03:59 +0200 Message-Id: <199504061703.AA02416@relay.iunet.it> Received: by hpdtmt2 (16.6/16.2) id AA01823; Thu, 6 Apr 95 18:49:15 +0200 From: Marco Crocetta Subject: Intersection To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Date: Thu, 6 Apr 95 18:49:15 METDST Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] Status: O Hi, I have to intersect 3 segments with a node in my scene graph. Everything works fine but...I cannot find out how to query WHICH of my segments actually has intersected the node. There is a simple way to get this (for me) precious information ? Thanks in advance --------------------------------- Marco Crocetta DATAMAT SpA, Rome e-mail: onyx@datamat.it -------------------------------- From guest Thu Apr 6 12:09:58 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id LAA28517; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 11:56:37 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id LAA28514; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 11:56:36 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA10465; Thu, 6 Apr 95 11:56:32 -0700 Received: from sgihub.corp.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) id LAA16908; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 11:56:29 -0700 Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by sgihub.corp.sgi.com via SMTP (940519.SGI.8.6.9/911001.SGI) id LAA09251; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 11:56:27 -0700 Received: from surreal.asd.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for @sgihub.corp.sgi.com:onyx@datamat.it id AA10419; Thu, 6 Apr 95 11:56:16 -0700 Received: from localhost by surreal.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id LAA19619; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 11:56:12 -0700 Message-Id: <199504061856.LAA19619@surreal.asd.sgi.com> To: Marco Crocetta Cc: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Re: Intersection In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 06 Apr 95 18:49:15 +0700." <199504061703.AA02416@relay.iunet.it> Date: Thu, 06 Apr 95 11:56:08 -0700 From: Jim Helman Status: O pfSegsIsectNode returns a pfHit for each segment in the request. They are in order. pfHit **hits[32]; numHits = pfSegsIsectNode(grp, &segset, hits); printf("\tDONE numHits : %d\n", numHits); hitPrint(hits[0][0]); /* first segment */ hitPrint(hits[1][0]); /* second segment */ hitPrint(hits[2][0]); /* thrid segment */ rgds, -jim helman jimh@surreal.asd.sgi.com 415/390-1151 From guest Thu Apr 6 12:51:14 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id MAA28866; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 12:35:06 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id MAA28863; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 12:35:06 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA12737; Thu, 6 Apr 95 12:35:04 -0700 Received: from holodeck.asd.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) id MAA24692; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 12:35:01 -0700 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id MAA28860; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 12:34:59 -0700 From: aschaffe (Allan Schaffer) Message-Id: <9504061234.ZM28858@holodeck.asd.sgi.com> Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 12:34:59 -0700 In-Reply-To: Marco Crocetta "Intersection" (Apr 6, 6:49pm) References: <199504061703.AA02416@relay.iunet.it> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: Marco Crocetta , info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Re: Intersection Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O On Apr 6, 6:49pm, Marco Crocetta wrote: > > I have to intersect 3 segments with a node in my scene graph. > Everything works fine but...I cannot find out how to query WHICH > of my segments actually has intersected the node. > > There is a simple way to get this (for me) precious information ? As I understand it, pfQueryHit(hit, PFQHIT_SEGNUM, &foo) should do the trick. Sorry about the broken man page. Allan -- Allan Schaffer aschaffe@sgi.com Silicon Graphics http://reality.sgi.com/employees/aschaffe From guest Thu Apr 6 13:11:38 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id MAA28929; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 12:53:58 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id MAA28926; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 12:53:57 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA13665; Thu, 6 Apr 95 12:53:49 -0700 Received: from sgihub.corp.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) id MAA28443; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 12:53:45 -0700 Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by sgihub.corp.sgi.com via SMTP (940519.SGI.8.6.9/911001.SGI) id MAA16384; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 12:53:44 -0700 Received: from surreal.asd.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for @sgihub.corp.sgi.com:matomira@lig.di.epfl.ch id AA13648; Thu, 6 Apr 95 12:53:43 -0700 Received: from localhost by surreal.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id MAA19723; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 12:53:42 -0700 Message-Id: <199504061953.MAA19723@surreal.asd.sgi.com> To: "Fernando D. Mato Mira" Cc: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Re: texture memory In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 06 Apr 95 11:28:35 +0200." <9504061128.ZM3035@lig.di.epfl.ch> Date: Thu, 06 Apr 95 12:53:42 -0700 From: Jim Helman Status: O > On Apr 5, 10:51am, Chris Tanner wrote: > > > > Is there a way to use detail textures that are smaller than 256 by 256 > > > texels in size ? Is this a bug in detail tex ? > > Yes, it is a bug... > > And the odds of this getting fixed (for OpenGL) in a 5.x (not in a 6.y) > before Spring '97 approach zero? It is a hardware limitation, all the software the world could not change the internal size. rgds, -jim helman jimh@surreal.asd.sgi.com 415/390-1151 From guest Thu Apr 6 13:41:21 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id NAA29040; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 13:24:59 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id NAA29037; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 13:24:58 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA15561; Thu, 6 Apr 95 13:24:57 -0700 Received: from sgihub.corp.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) id NAA04865; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 13:24:50 -0700 Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by sgihub.corp.sgi.com via SMTP (940519.SGI.8.6.9/911001.SGI) id NAA20300; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 13:24:48 -0700 Received: from surreal.asd.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for @sgihub.corp.sgi.com:dbohdal@dw3f.ess.harris.com id AA15548; Thu, 6 Apr 95 13:24:47 -0700 Received: from localhost by surreal.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id NAA19852; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 13:24:45 -0700 Message-Id: <199504062024.NAA19852@surreal.asd.sgi.com> To: Debbie Bohdal Cc: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Re: More than one pfScene In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 04 Apr 95 14:06:07 EDT." <199504041806.OAA19182@dw3f.ess.harris.com> Date: Thu, 06 Apr 95 13:24:45 -0700 From: Jim Helman Status: O Setting up the two channels and having the same or two different scenes is straightforward. As for the GLX issues, I've put out a vesion of the C++ Performer Motif example that a customer, Weihai Chen, modified to support two GLX contexts (sgigate.sgi.com:/pub/Performer/src/pfMotif2.C), one for Performer and one for occasional GL use. But if you're rendering to both pfChannels every frame, you really want them using the same context or you'll pay a heavy price in graphics context switching as well as not be able to share textures. rgds, -jim helman jimh@surreal.asd.sgi.com 415/390-1151 From guest Thu Apr 6 18:06:16 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id RAA00504; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 17:49:08 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id RAA00501; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 17:49:03 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA27849; Thu, 6 Apr 95 17:48:59 -0700 Received: from ctaeng.com by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) for id RAA27061; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 17:48:42 -0700 Received: from support.ctaeng.com by ctaeng.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01879; Thu, 6 Apr 95 18:48:22 MDT Received: from getreal.mss.ctaeng.com by support.ctaeng.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA12568; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 18:48:13 -0600 Received: by getreal.mss.ctaeng.com (931110.SGI/920502.SGI.AUTO) for @support.ctaeng.com:info-performer@sgi.com id AA04637; Thu, 6 Apr 95 18:48:01 -0600 From: "`Bwana' Bob Buckley" Message-Id: <9504061847.ZM4635@getreal.mss.ctaeng.com> Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 18:47:55 -0600 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Far Plane Inaccuracy? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Length: 871 Status: O Hello all, A while back I had someone show me a anamoly on the RE. It might be prevalent in the whole Iris line. I set my far plane to be 100km and I placed a model at 100km. Why would I not expect to see the polygons on this side of the far plane? I see nothing of the model until the far plane has been increased another 17.8km. Can someone explain this to me? Thanks! =========================================================================== 'Bwana' Bob Buckley CTA, Inc. Sr. Software Engineer 5670 Greenwood Plaza Blvd Visual Systems Englewood, CO 80111 (303) 889-1207 (303) 889-1200 bbuckley@ctaeng.com (303) 889-1398 Fax =========================================================================== From guest Thu Apr 6 21:19:05 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id UAA01387; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 20:59:48 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id UAA01384; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 20:59:48 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA03684; Thu, 6 Apr 95 20:59:40 -0700 Received: from einstein.technet.sg by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/910110.SGI) for id UAA22909; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 20:59:21 -0700 Received: (from mphilip@localhost) by einstein.technet.sg (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA04017; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 11:52:15 +0800 From: Michael Philip Message-Id: <199504070352.LAA04017@einstein.technet.sg> Subject: Re: SoTransform in new 1.3 Inventor loader ... To: gce@syseca.fr (Cedric Gautier) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 11:52:14 +0800 (SST) Cc: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <9504061600.AA08127@anna> from "Cedric Gautier" at Apr 6, 95 06:00:20 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 808 Status: O Cedric, You wrote: > Hi ... I have just a little question about how to retains a DCS for a > dynamic transformation when an SoTransform is encountered in a Inventor > file ... because my differents trys seems not to work ! ... I believe that the Inventor loader flushes accumulated SoTransforms into a DCS when in encounters an SoGroup (or subclass) with "dcs" or "DCS" in it's name. Try: DEF DCS Group { ... } I guess this is because in Performer, DCS's are actually groups. You could also experiment with: LoadIvMode( PFIV_FLATTEN, 0 ); // Don't flatten in case it's killing DCS and: LoadIvMode( PFIV_CONVERT_XFORMS, 1 ); // Don't check DEF name, always use DCS Good luck, Mike Philip -- Michael Philip, Symbolic Research Pte Ltd, Singapore Fax:(65)295-5311 AppleLink:FEA0001 mphilip@technet.sg From guest Fri Apr 7 01:06:45 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id AAA01705; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 00:49:47 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id AAA01702; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 00:49:47 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA08910; Fri, 7 Apr 95 00:49:40 -0700 Received: from sgihub.corp.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) id AAA08763; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 00:49:30 -0700 Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by sgihub.corp.sgi.com via SMTP (940519.SGI.8.6.9/911001.SGI) id AAA17989; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 00:49:42 -0700 Received: from babar.asd.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for @sgihub.corp.sgi.com:bbuckley@ctaeng.com id AA08896; Fri, 7 Apr 95 00:49:27 -0700 Received: by babar.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id AAA12923; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 00:49:28 -0700 From: "Michael Jones" Message-Id: <9504070049.ZM12921@babar.asd.sgi.com> Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 00:49:27 -0700 In-Reply-To: "`Bwana' Bob Buckley" "Far Plane Inaccuracy?" (Apr 6, 6:47pm) References: <9504061847.ZM4635@getreal.mss.ctaeng.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: "`Bwana' Bob Buckley" , info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Re: Far Plane Inaccuracy? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O On Apr 6, 6:47pm, `Bwana' Bob Buckley wrote: > Subject: Far Plane Inaccuracy? :A while back I had someone show me a anamoly on the RE. It might be prevalent :in the whole Iris line. I set my far plane to be 100km and I placed a model at :100km. Why would I not expect to see the polygons on this side of the far :plane? I see nothing of the model until the far plane has been increased :another 17.8km. Can someone explain this to me? The Z value used is actually 1/z to bias resolution toward the eye where it's most needed, the spacing between resolvable distances increases as you move out from the eye. The Z precision is actually related to (near-eye)/(far-eye), so pushing the near plane out a bit can make a big difference. What was your near plane distance? -- Be seeing you, Phone:415.390.1455 Fax:415.965.2658 M/S:8U-590 Michael T. Jones Silicon Graphics, Advanced Graphics Division mtj@sgi.com 2011 N. Shoreline Blvd., Mtn. View, CA 94039-7311 From guest Fri Apr 7 04:06:50 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id DAA01844; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 03:44:14 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id DAA01841; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 03:44:14 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA12231; Fri, 7 Apr 95 03:44:11 -0700 Received: from chenas.inria.fr by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id DAA06919; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 03:44:03 -0700 Received: from syseca.fr ([192.93.110.126]) by chenas.inria.fr (5.65c8d/92.02.29) via Fnet-EUnet id AA11117; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 12:43:53 +0200 (MET) Received: from anna by syseca.fr (4.1/SMU-4.0 22/11/92 Syseca) id AA02224; Fri, 7 Apr 95 12:45:16 +0200 Received: by anna (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@sgi.com id AA09434; Fri, 7 Apr 95 12:41:28 +0200 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 95 12:41:28 +0200 From: gce@syseca.fr (Cedric Gautier) Message-Id: <9504071041.AA09434@anna> To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Inventor 1.3 loader ... Status: O Hi again ... Solution for DCS retaining is effectively to put the DCS string before a group and after the differents transformations (thank's Mike !) but I have now another little problem: the loader create two nodes with the same name ! ... one for the group and one for the DCS and so the pfFindDCS research seems to say that the result is ambiguous ! ... Is there some way to avoid this problem ? Cedric From guest Fri Apr 7 08:15:51 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id HAA02294; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 07:57:10 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id HAA02291; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 07:57:09 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA16607; Fri, 7 Apr 95 07:57:03 -0700 Received: from dw3si.ess.harris.com by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id HAA09671; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 07:56:50 -0700 From: bmcquear@dw3f.ess.harris.com Received: by dw3si.ess.harris.com (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA01775; Fri, 7 Apr 95 11:00:29 -0400 Message-Id: <9504071500.AA01775@dw3si.ess.harris.com> To: Jim Helman Cc: Debbie Bohdal , info-performer@sgi.sgi.com, bmcquear@dw3f.ess.harris.com Subject: Re: More than one pfScene In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 06 Apr 95 13:24:45 PDT." <199504062024.NAA19852@surreal.asd.sgi.com> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 95 11:00:27 -0400 X-Mts: smtp Status: O Jim, Thanks for the response concerning opening two GLX widgets in the same application. Let me try to restate our initial problem: We are attempting to create GLX widgets in two separate windows in the same application. Each GLX widget will need to reference its own pfScene. We are running on an Indigo2/Extreme so more than one pipe is not option, as far as we know. Is it possible to render into both widgets simultaneously under one application? Also, we are having some problems with the demo (sgigate.sgi.com:/pub/Performer/src/pfMotif2.C). When we run it, the rendering only occurs in the first GLX widget. When we run it with the GLXwinset commented out, we only get a backgound in the second widget (no scene) and the first render area gets hosed. These problems may relate back to our original question. We appreciate any ideas you may have. ----------------------------------------------------------- Bruce McQueary | Phone 407-984-5964 (Office) Harris Corporation, ISD | 407-984-6813 (Lab) P.O. 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Thank You, Curt From guest Mon Apr 10 05:52:52 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id FAA09860; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 05:29:38 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id FAA09857; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 05:29:30 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA28767; Mon, 10 Apr 95 05:29:25 -0700 Received: from relay.iunet.it by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id FAA26789; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 05:18:58 -0700 Received: from hpdtmt2.UUCP by relay.iunet.it with UUCP id AA21295 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4 for info-performer%sgi.com@iunet.it); Mon, 10 Apr 1995 14:19:11 +0200 Message-Id: <199504101219.AA21295@relay.iunet.it> Received: by hpdtmt2 (16.6/16.2) id AA05262; Mon, 10 Apr 95 13:40:39 +0200 From: Marco Crocetta Subject: Cull problems To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Date: Mon, 10 Apr 95 13:40:39 METDST Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] Status: O Hi, I have the following problem. I'd like to draw a plane far away in my scene, that rotate around the Z axis like my point of view so that it is always in front of the viewing frustum, i.e. it's always visible. I created this plane as a gset and than I have attached it to my scene graph: static pfVec3 orizzonte[]={ {-1000, 2800.00000,0.0}, {-1000,2800.00000,-500}, {1000, 2800.00000, -500}, {1000, 2800.00000,0.0} }; .... gset11=pfNewGSet(pfGetSharedArena()); geode=pfNewGeode(); pfNodeName(geode,"GEODE"); pfGSetPrimType(gset11,PFGS_QUADS); pfGSetNumPrims(gset11,1); pfGSetAttr(gset11,PFGS_COORD3,PFGS_PER_VERTEX,orizzonte,NULL); pfAddGSet(geode,gset11); pfAddChild(Shared->Geo.horDCS,geode); pfAddChild(Shared->Scene,Shared->Geo.horDCS); .... Then frame by frame I try to updated the DCS as follows: pfDCSRot(Shared->Geo.horDCS,Shared->viewCoord.hpr[PF_H],0.0f,0.0f); Now the problem is that things works well only if I disable culling (i.e. the perfly cullMode variable is set to 0) otherwise my plane for a certain heading angle of the viewing frustrum just disappears. I must also say that this problem doesn't exist if I draw the plane by a pfDrawGSet(gset11). Any Idea of where the problem should be ? Thanks in Advance. P.S. Thanks for the help about my Intersection problems! ------------------------------------- Marco Crocetta DATAMAT SpA, Rome e-mail:onyx@datamat.it ------------------------------------- From guest Mon Apr 10 07:48:03 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id HAA10011; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 07:29:51 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id HAA10008; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 07:29:42 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA00481; Mon, 10 Apr 95 07:29:31 -0700 Received: from disperse.demon.co.uk by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id HAA05606; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 07:29:26 -0700 Received: from gate.demon.co.uk by disperse.demon.co.uk id ad13225; 10 Apr 95 14:51 GMT-60:00 Received: from division.demon.co.uk by gate.demon.co.uk id aa01600; 10 Apr 95 14:45 GMT-60:00 Received: from caliban.division.demon.co.uk by division.demon.co.uk (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA07197; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 14:45:21 +0100 Received: by caliban (931110.SGI/921111.SGI) for @division.demon.co.uk:info-performer@sgi.com id AA11004; Mon, 10 Apr 95 14:45:20 +0100 From: Angus Dorbie Message-Id: <9504101445.ZM11002@caliban> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 14:45:20 +0100 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: onyx@datamat.it Subject: Re: Cull problems Cc: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: O Try adding the following: pfNodeBSphere(geode, NULL, PFN_BMODE_DYNAMIC); and: pfNodeBSphere(Shared->Geo.horDCS, NULL, PFN_BMODE_DYNAMIC); TTFN, -- Angus Dorbie Division Ltd, Software Engineer 19 Apex Court, Tel: (01454)615554 Woodlands, Fax: (01454)615532 Bristol BS12 4JT, angus@division.demon.co.uk UK From guest Mon Apr 10 08:54:59 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id IAA10115; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 08:34:03 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id IAA10112; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 08:34:02 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA02323; Mon, 10 Apr 95 08:33:51 -0700 Received: from mercury.arl.mil by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id IAA12719; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 08:33:42 -0700 Received: by mercury.arl.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03260; Mon, 10 Apr 95 09:35:08 MDT From: mtorres@arl.mil (Torres Mario 678-3280 AMSRL-BE-M) Message-Id: <9504101535.AA03260@mercury.arl.mil> Subject: Re: More than one pfScene To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Date: Mon, 10 Apr 95 9:35:08 MDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL17] Status: O > Cc: info-performer@sgi.com > Subject: Re: More than one pfScene > In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 04 Apr 95 14:06:07 EDT." > <199504041806.OAA19182@dw3f.ess.harris.com> > Date: Thu, 06 Apr 95 13:24:45 -0700 > From: Jim Helman > > > Setting up the two channels and having the same or two different > scenes is straightforward. > > > rgds, > > -jim helman > > jimh@surreal.asd.sgi.com > Is this really true? I can have two different scenes in two different channels? Or can I have two different views of same scene with the fog turned ON ONLY in one channel? It'd be great if each channel can render scenes independently of another. Mario A. Torres Science and Technology Corp. From guest Mon Apr 10 18:15:58 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id RAA13220; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 17:58:16 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id RAA13217; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 17:58:10 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA24579; Mon, 10 Apr 95 17:58:06 -0700 Received: from mail.ucsd.edu by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id RAA10936; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 17:57:52 -0700 Received: from jupiter by mail.ucsd.edu; id RAA11375 sendmail 8.6.11/UCSD-2.2-sun via SMTP Mon, 10 Apr 1995 17:57:49 -0700 for <@mail.ucsd.edu:info-performer@sgi.com> Received: by jupiter (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for @mail.ucsd.edu:info-performer@sgi.com id AA20353; Mon, 10 Apr 95 17:56:20 -0700 From: "Andy Mirkis" Message-Id: <9504101756.ZM20351@jupiter.ucsd.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 17:56:16 -0700 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Extracting a named group from a scene graph... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: O Has anybody ever tried to extract a portion of a scene graph (say, all nodes below a named group) and place it under a DCS or SCS?? I've been working on this for a while with mixed results. Basically, I remove the group node from the scene graph, traverse its children down to the geosets and change the vertices so that they are defined relative to the extracted objects center - the groups bsphere center (making this the objects origin). Then I move the children under the new DCS node. This 'almost' seems to work. I have the object in question spinning in place and I can only see it during ~90 degrees of its rotation. Even though the isect traversal masks seem to be set, intersection (collision and picking) doesn't seem to work. I also noticed from the scene dump that the vertices have been changed but the bsphere center for all nodes seem to be the same as before extraction. I've tried setting them all explicitly using: pfNodeBSphere(node, NULL, PFN_BMODE_DYNAMIC); Is there something I need to do to explicitly change an object's origin? I know I'm missing something here, I'm just not sure what. Any pointers or suggestions would be appreciated! Thanks! -Andy From guest Mon Apr 10 19:00:57 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id SAA13634; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 18:42:20 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id SAA13631; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 18:42:19 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA26393; Mon, 10 Apr 95 18:42:09 -0700 Received: from holodeck.asd.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) id SAA17705; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 18:41:54 -0700 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id SAA13628; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 18:41:48 -0700 From: aschaffe (Allan Schaffer) Message-Id: <9504101841.ZM13626@holodeck.asd.sgi.com> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 18:41:47 -0700 In-Reply-To: mtorres@arl.mil (Torres Mario 678-3280 AMSRL-BE-M) "Re: More than one pfScene" (Apr 10, 9:35am) References: <9504101535.AA03260@mercury.arl.mil> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: mtorres@arl.mil (Torres Mario 678-3280 AMSRL-BE-M), info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Re: More than one pfScene Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O On Apr 10, 9:35am, Torres Mario 678-3280 AMSRL-BE-M wrote: > > From: Jim Helman > > > > Setting up the two channels and having the same or two different > > scenes is straightforward. > > Is this really true? I can have two different scenes in two different > channels? Sure. This one is easy, all you need to do is create two scene graphs (each with its' own pfScene node at the root), create channels, and use pfChanScene() to connect them. pfScene *scene1 = pfNewScene(); pfScene *scene2 = pfNewScene(); pfChannel *chan1 = pfNewChan (pipe); pfChannel *chan2 = pfNewChan (pipe); pfChanScene (chan1, scene1); pfChanScene (chan2, scene2); > Or can I have two different views of same scene with the fog > turned ON ONLY in one channel? This is easy if you're using EarthSky. Fog is something that can be coupled with earthsky, and earthsky is a per-channel attribute. So, all you have to do is create a different earthsky for each channel, with a different fog (or no fog) in each earthsky. If you're not using EarthSky, it will be more difficult. You have to render the same scene but change the fog state "halfway" through. One method to try would be: In the APP: (as you expect) pfScene *scene1 = pfNewScene(); pfChannel *chan1 = pfNewChan (pipe); pfChannel *chan2 = pfNewChan (pipe); pfChanDrawFunc (chan1, DrawCallback1); pfChanDrawFunc (chan1, DrawCallback2); pfChanScene (chan1, scene1); pfChanScene (chan2, scene1); /* same scene for both */ In DrawCallback1: turn fog on (using libpr) pfClearChan(); pfDraw(); in DrawCallback2 do the same but turn fog off. Loading & removing fog every frame will have a slight performance penalty. Performer 2.0 will include the concept of "indexed geostates", so this switching will be much easier. Allan -- Allan Schaffer aschaffe@sgi.com Silicon Graphics http://reality.sgi.com/employees/aschaffe From guest Tue Apr 11 08:06:18 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id HAA15257; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 07:45:53 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id HAA15254; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 07:45:52 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA14101; Tue, 11 Apr 95 07:45:48 -0700 Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id HAA27787; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 07:45:47 -0700 Received: from medusa.cs.nps.navy.mil ([131.120.7.32]) by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24030; Tue, 11 Apr 95 07:44:47 PDT Received: by medusa.cs.nps.navy.mil (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id HAA04859; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 07:43:57 -0700 From: "david pratt" Message-Id: <9504110743.ZM4857@medusa.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 07:43:57 -0700 In-Reply-To: "Patrice TORGUET" "Old SGI Systems, Info needed" (Apr 11, 11:52am) References: <9504111152.ZM8752@virtus.irit.fr> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: "Patrice TORGUET" , info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Re: Old SGI Systems, Info needed Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O We still use our two 4D 440 Reality Engine as teh workhorses. Sure they are not as fast as teh Onyx, but they are great machines. We have not had any machine related problems with Performer on them. Off hand and depending on the application, frame rate for our app is 1/2 to the same as the 4 processor 150MHz Onyx. Dave On Apr 11, 11:52am, Patrice TORGUET wrote: > Subject: Old SGI Systems, Info needed > Hi info-performers, > > We have the opportunity to buy a 4D 440 Reality Engine > with system 5.3, 128 Mb RAM and 1.2 Gb disk for about $50 000. > I would like to know if Performer and REACT works well on such > workstations. > What performance can we expect from the 4 R3000 @ 40 MHz ? > Do you still use such systems ? > How long do you think such systems to be useful (I mean > knowing that system 6.0 will never work on R3000) ? > And last but not least, is it a good bargain ? > > Thank you for any info, > -- > Patrice Torguet Computer Graphics Group > > Institut de Recherche en Informatique de Toulouse /U.P.S. > 118 Rte de Narbonne 31062 TOULOUSE (FRANCE) > Tel : (+33) 61 55 63 13 Fax : (+33) 61 55 62 58 > E-Mail : torguet@irit.fr > __________________________________________________________ > >-- End of excerpt from Patrice TORGUET -- Dave Pratt pratt@cs.nps.navy.mil (408) 656-2865 fax (408) 656-2814 Department of Computer Science, Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey, CA 93943 These are my opinions, talk to the PAO for the Navy's. From guest Tue Apr 11 09:00:11 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id IAA15314; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 08:41:25 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id IAA15311; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 08:41:20 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA15416; Tue, 11 Apr 95 08:41:18 -0700 Received: from chx400.switch.ch by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id IAA04778; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 08:41:16 -0700 From: ipandzic@cui.unige.ch X400-Received: by mta chx400.switch.ch in /PRMD=Switch/ADMD=Arcom/C=Ch/; Relayed; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:40:49 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=SWITCH/ADMD=ARCOM/C=CH/; Relayed; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:40:44 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/; Relayed; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:40:39 +0200 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:40:39 +0200 X400-Originator: ipandzic@cui.unige.ch X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-Mts-Identifier: [/PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/;950411174039] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: 592 Alternate-Recipient: Allowed Message-Id: <592*/S=ipandzic/OU=cui/O=unige/PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/@MHS> To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Shutter glasses Status: O Hi! I intend to buy Crystal Eyes shutter glasses equiped with a head tracker and use them in a Performer-based application. I would like to check if anyone has any experience with this and what problems (if any) I might expect - I don't understand very well what happens when I put the graphics in stereo mode and how do I render left and right images separately from performer in such case. Thanks for any help. Igor +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Igor Pandzic ipandzic@cui.unige.ch MIRALab University of Geneva tel. +41/22/705 76 56 24, rue General-Dufour 705 77 63 CH-1211 GENEVE 4 SWITZERLAND fax +41/22/705 77 80 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From guest Tue Apr 11 10:45:40 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id KAA15553; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 10:30:33 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id KAA15550; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 10:30:28 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA21426; Tue, 11 Apr 95 10:30:25 -0700 Received: from ligsg10.epfl.ch by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id KAA25133; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 10:30:13 -0700 Received: by ligsg10.epfl.ch (Smail3.1.29.1 #28) id m0ryjlS-0000ciC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 19:30 MET DST Message-Id: Date: Tue, 11 Apr 95 19:30 MET DST From: matomira@lig.di.epfl.ch (Fernando D. Mato Mira) To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: crystal eyes Reply-To: matomira@epfl.ch Status: O Salut, combien de difference de $ entre a VR glasses set et un set crystal eyes normal? combien ca coute les lunettes tout seules (pas d'emmeteur infrarouge et ultrasons) Je te demande parce que logitech va discontinuer peut-etre les head trackers et les 3dmice, et ils auraient de stock a liquider (environ 100 unites). Si crystal+lunnetes VR+ logitech deal ca coute le meme prix, tu es en train d'avoir un pair de lunnettes (normaux) extra, plus un 3dmouse pour d'autres apps. L'emmeteur qui vient avec les crystal VR c'est celui du 3dmouse. Ce du head tracker c'est la meme chose, avec un design different (il est facile de le coller au plafond) Pour faire la stereo: #define YMAXSTEREOf ((float) YMAXSTEREO) #define YMAXSCREENf ((float) YMAXSCREEN) #define YOFFSETf ((float) YOFFSET) pfChannel * make_right_channel(pfPipe *p, pfChannel *left) { pfChannel *right; long share; /* Set up a single pipe, stereo simulation. */ right = pfNewChan(p); /* Form channel group with left as the "master" */ pfAttachChan(left, right); /* * Share field of view but not viewport * in addition to the default shared attributes. */ share = pfGetChanShare(left); pfChanShare(left, (share & ~PFCHAN_VIEWPORT) | PFCHAN_SCENE | PFCHAN_EARTHSKY | PFCHAN_NEARFAR | PFCHAN_VIEW | PFCHAN_STRESS | PFCHAN_LOD | PFCHAN_CULLFUNC | PFCHAN_DRAWFUNC); return right; } float viewport_fraction(int stereo) { if (stereo) return YMAXSTEREOf / YMAXSCREENf; else return 1.0f; } pfChannel * setup_viewports(pfPipe *p, pfChannel *left, pfChannel *right, float horiz_fov, int stereo) { static float hprOffsets[3], xyzOffsets[3]; float v_viewport_frac; float vert_fov = -1.0f; hprOffsets[PF_P] = 0.0f; hprOffsets[PF_R] = 0.0f; pfSetVec3(xyzOffsets, 0.0f, 0.0f, 0.0f); v_viewport_frac = viewport_fraction(stereo); /* vertical FOV is matched to window aspect ratio */ pfChanFOV(left, horiz_fov, vert_fov); if (stereo) { float horiz_fov, vert_fov; if (!right) right = make_right_channel(p, left); /* vertical FOV is multiplied by (1.0 / v_viewport_frac) to account for old-style stereo */ pfGetChanFOV(left, &horiz_fov, &vert_fov); pfChanFOV(left, horiz_fov, (1.0 / v_viewport_frac) * vert_fov); pfChanFOV(right, horiz_fov, (1.0 / v_viewport_frac) * vert_fov); /* * Set up viewport and viewing offsets. * Note that these are not shared by default. */ pfChanViewport(left, 0.0f, 1.0f, YOFFSETf / YMAXSCREENf, (YOFFSET+YMAXSTEREO) / YMAXSCREENf); hprOffsets[PF_H] = 0.0f; xyzOffsets[PF_X] = -0.032f; pfChanViewOffsets(left, hprOffsets, xyzOffsets); pfChanViewport(right, 0.0f, 1.0f, 0.0f, v_viewport_frac); hprOffsets[PF_H] = 0.0f; xyzOffsets[PF_X] = 0.032f; pfChanViewOffsets(right, hprOffsets, xyzOffsets); } else { pfChanViewport(left, 0.0f, 1.0f, 0.0f, 1.0f); pfChanViewOffsets(left, hprOffsets, xyzOffsets); } return right; } in main(), eg: /* Open and configure full screen GL window. */ pfInitPipe(p, OpenPipeline); pfFrameRate(20.0f); left = pfNewChan(p); /* Set FOV of all channels */ pfMakeSimpleFrust(left, horiz_fov); pfChanAutoAspect(left, PFFRUST_CALC_HORIZ); right = setup_viewports(p, left, right, horiz_fov, stereo); /* right is NULL the first time */ You can theoretically call setup_viewports repeatedly to turn on/off stereo mode, but this will not work on the Indigo II Extremes (you have to setmon STR_RECT before running the program - maybe before initing Performer graphics, in the program, works but I don't remember). You have to setmon 72Hz after the program finished. I don't know if the Onyx is OK for setmoning inside the program, but I would expect so.. The code is a bit hacky, but it's abstracted out a bit from the man pages, examples, etc. If you have any questions, just drop me a line.. Fernando D. Mato Mira http://ligwww.epfl.ch/matomira.html Computer Graphics Lab Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (EPFL) Phone : +41 (21) 693 - 5248 CH-1015 Lausanne FAX : +41 (21) 693 - 5328 Switzerland E-mail : matomira@di.epfl.ch "The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -Ludwig Wittgenstein From guest Tue Apr 11 03:13:25 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id CAA14998; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 02:55:42 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id CAA14994; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 02:55:42 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA09868; Tue, 11 Apr 95 02:55:28 -0700 Received: from irit.irit.fr by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id CAA06404; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 02:55:25 -0700 Received: from virtus (virtus.irit.fr [141.115.12.58]) by irit.irit.fr (8.6.9/8.6.4) with ESMTP id LAA02898 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 11:52:49 +0100 Received: by virtus, Tue, 11 Apr 1995 11:52:05 +0200 From: "Patrice TORGUET" Message-Id: <9504111152.ZM8752@virtus.irit.fr> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 11:52:04 -0600 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Old SGI Systems, Info needed Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O Hi info-performers, We have the opportunity to buy a 4D 440 Reality Engine with system 5.3, 128 Mb RAM and 1.2 Gb disk for about $50 000. I would like to know if Performer and REACT works well on such workstations. What performance can we expect from the 4 R3000 @ 40 MHz ? Do you still use such systems ? How long do you think such systems to be useful (I mean knowing that system 6.0 will never work on R3000) ? And last but not least, is it a good bargain ? Thank you for any info, -- Patrice Torguet Computer Graphics Group Institut de Recherche en Informatique de Toulouse /U.P.S. 118 Rte de Narbonne 31062 TOULOUSE (FRANCE) Tel : (+33) 61 55 63 13 Fax : (+33) 61 55 62 58 E-Mail : torguet@irit.fr __________________________________________________________ From guest Tue Apr 11 03:14:13 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id CAA15004; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 02:57:52 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id CAA15001; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 02:57:52 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA09912; Tue, 11 Apr 95 02:57:51 -0700 Received: from irit.irit.fr by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id CAA06472; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 02:57:41 -0700 Received: from virtus (virtus.irit.fr [141.115.12.58]) by irit.irit.fr (8.6.9/8.6.4) with ESMTP id LAA02912 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 11:55:20 +0100 Received: by virtus, Tue, 11 Apr 1995 11:54:36 +0200 From: "Patrice TORGUET" Message-Id: <9504111154.ZM8811@virtus.irit.fr> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 11:54:36 -0600 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Strange Segmentation Fault Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O Hi again, I've got a big problem when compiling and linking with C++. I compile on a 4D25 with system 4.0.5 and C++ 3.0.1. linking with Performer 1.2. The program crashes with a Segmentation fault. When I look the core under dbx I get this call stack : (dbx) where > 0 .orderimg.::operator<<(ostream&,Date&)(Os = (nil), D = (nil)) ["/tmp_mnt/users/virtus-projet/virtuel/VIPER/virtual/test/../inc/orderimg.hxx":58, 0x400240] Which is in an include file, and is inline code... When I run the program under dbx, I place a breakpoint on the first assembler instruction of the main, (dbx) stopi in main Process 0: [3] stop at main (dbx) run Process 6000 (Walk2) started Process 6000 (Walk2) Segmentation fault [.orderimg.::operator<<(ostream&,Date&):58 +0x8,0x400244] 58 // Copy Constructor (dbx) where > 0 .orderimg.::operator<<(ostream&,Date&)(Os = (nil), D = (nil)) ["/tmp_mnt/users/virtus-projet/virtuel/VIPER/virtual/test/../inc/orderimg.hxx":58, 0x400244] (dbx) Apparently, the program is executing an inlined method of mine. When I comment this method, I get the error in another inlined method... The Very Strange Part, is that all this is executed before the first instruction of my main... I don't think this is specifically related to Performer... but I would like to know if any one add encountered such a problem. Any help greatly appreciated, -- Patrice Torguet Computer Graphics Group Institut de Recherche en Informatique de Toulouse /U.P.S. 118 Rte de Narbonne 31062 TOULOUSE (FRANCE) Tel : (+33) 61 55 63 13 Fax : (+33) 61 55 62 58 E-Mail : torguet@irit.fr __________________________________________________________ From guest Tue Apr 11 12:57:51 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id MAA15680; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 12:42:16 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id MAA15677; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 12:42:03 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA27984; Tue, 11 Apr 95 12:41:54 -0700 Received: from ligsg10.epfl.ch by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id MAA18663; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 12:41:48 -0700 Received: by ligsg10.epfl.ch (Smail3.1.29.1 #28) id m0ryloo-0000ciC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 21:41 MET DST Message-Id: Date: Tue, 11 Apr 95 21:41 MET DST From: matomira@lig.di.epfl.ch (Fernando D. Mato Mira) To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Performer and PPCR Reply-To: matomira@epfl.ch Status: O Hello, has anybody tried using PPCR in a Performer app? And using it to garbage-collect PfMalloc'ed stuff? A simple example of how to set up things would be great.. Thanks in advance, Fernando D. Mato Mira http://ligwww.epfl.ch/matomira.html Computer Graphics Lab Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (EPFL) Phone : +41 (21) 693 - 5248 CH-1015 Lausanne FAX : +41 (21) 693 - 5328 Switzerland E-mail : matomira@di.epfl.ch "The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -Ludwig Wittgenstein From guest Tue Apr 11 18:03:22 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id RAA16775; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:48:14 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id RAA16772; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:48:08 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA13099; Tue, 11 Apr 95 17:47:14 -0700 Received: from sgihub.corp.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) id RAA28040; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:47:08 -0700 Received: from fnord.studio.sgi.com by sgihub.corp.sgi.com via ESMTP (940519.SGI.8.6.9/911001.SGI) id RAA19416; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:47:00 -0700 Received: by fnord.studio.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id RAA15971; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:42:17 -0700 From: "Wade Olsen" Message-Id: <9504111742.ZM15969@fnord.studio.sgi.com> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:42:17 -0700 In-Reply-To: bmcquear@dw3f.ess.harris.com "Re: More than one pfScene" (Apr 7, 11:00am) References: <9504071500.AA01775@dw3si.ess.harris.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: bmcquear@dw3f.ess.harris.com, Jim Helman Subject: Re: More than one pfScene Cc: Debbie Bohdal , info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O On Apr 7, 11:00am, bmcquear@dw3f.ess.harris.com wrote: > We are attempting to create GLX widgets in two separate windows in > the same application. Each GLX widget will need to reference its own > pfScene. We are running on an Indigo2/Extreme so more than one pipe is > not option, as far as we know. Is it possible to render into both > widgets simultaneously under one application? >-- End of excerpt from bmcquear@dw3f.ess.harris.com Here is a demo intended for use with a head-mounted displays attached to either a multipipe Onyx or a RealityEngine with MCO. I modified it to also display into 2 separate glx widgets. Currently, there is only one scene. It would be straight forward to have each channel display it's own scene. To extract the vrfly demo: Save this message to a file. type: uudecode type: tar xvf vrfly.tar to build... type: cd GL/lib/liboop; make type: cd ../../vrfly; make to try it... type: vrfly -disp_mode 2window -init_pos 0,-1,0.1 -near 0.01 data/grid.dwb and: (put the mouse in window with the sliders and buttons. Use the middle mouse to change viewing direction. 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Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id BAA17542; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 01:47:03 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA22709; Wed, 12 Apr 95 01:47:02 -0700 Received: from relay.iunet.it by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id BAA00464; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 01:46:05 -0700 Received: from hpdtmt2.UUCP by relay.iunet.it with UUCP id AA19322 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4 for info-performer%sgi.com@iunet.it); Wed, 12 Apr 1995 10:50:06 +0200 Message-Id: <199504120850.AA19322@relay.iunet.it> Received: by hpdtmt2 (16.6/16.2) id AA07052; Wed, 12 Apr 95 10:34:51 +0200 From: Marco Crocetta Subject: Picking To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Date: Wed, 12 Apr 95 10:34:50 METDST Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] Status: O Hi, I'm starting to work with the Picking feature of Performer. I went through the pickfly example but it does a lot of things that I don't really need (and maybe it's not easy to understand) so I tried to start creating a simple Pick function that is called by my intersection callback: void Pick(void) { struct { pfScene *scene; pfChannel **chan; pfNode *picked; pfPath *path; char *pathname; float pickX; float pickY; long traverse; } Pick; long pick_count = 0; static pfHit **ipicked[10]; float px,py; pfNodePickSetup(Shared->scene); pfuCalcNormalizedChanXY(&px,&py,Shared->masterChan, Shared->mouse.clickDownX,Shared->mouse.clickDownY); pick_count = pfChanPick(Shared->masterChan,PFPK_M_NEAREST,px,py, 1.0f, ipicked); if (pick_count > 0) { pfQueryHit(*ipicked[0], PFQHIT_NODE, &Pick.picked); pfQueryHit(*ipicked[0], PFQHIT_PATH, &Pick.path); pfNotify(PFNFY_INFO, PFNFY_PRINT,"INTERSECTION FOUND"); } else Pick.picked = NULL; } The problem is that nothing seems to be picked... Do I have to do other things to make the picking works (all the stuff in the pickfly example)? Thanks in Advance. P.S. Thanks for the help about my previous problem. -------------------------- Marco Crocetta DATAMAT SpA, Rome e-mail:onyx@datamat.it -------------------------- From guest Wed Apr 12 12:48:16 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id MAA18417; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 12:31:30 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id MAA18414; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 12:31:29 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA06445; Wed, 12 Apr 95 12:31:11 -0700 Received: from spenser.engin.umich.edu by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id MAA29950; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 12:31:08 -0700 Received: from localhost (aut@localhost) by spenser.engin.umich.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with SMTP id NAA17935 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 13:54:34 -0400 Message-Id: <199504121754.NAA17935@spenser.engin.umich.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: spenser.engin.umich.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Textures Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 13:54:31 +0100 From: Choon H Lee Status: O We have currently a problem with our program which translates our own file format (svr) such that it can be read with Performer. The program works fine, but we encountered troubles with textures. It works fine when textures are not applied at all in the original file format, but when textures are used, and loaded into Performer they seem to color all other objects with the dominant color of its last uploaded texture. Did anyone encounter similar problems in the past? -- Choon. _________________________________________________________________________ Choon H. LEE phone: (313) 769 7834 (home) College of Engineering The University of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109, U.S.A. email: aut@engin.umich.edu _________________________________________________________________________ Art is to beauty what honor is to honesty. -- Winston Churchill From guest Wed Apr 12 07:40:04 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id HAA17814; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 07:21:25 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id HAA17811; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 07:21:20 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA27477; Wed, 12 Apr 95 07:21:19 -0700 Received: from josef.ifi.unizh.ch by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id HAA16248; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 07:20:30 -0700 Message-Id: <199504121420.HAA16248@sgi.sgi.com> Received: from ifi.unizh.ch by josef.ifi.unizh.ch id <01438-0@josef.ifi.unizh.ch>; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 16:21:01 +0200 To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Running 2 Keyboards on an Onyx Cc: szabo@ifi.unizh.ch Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 16:21:01 +0200 From: Kornel Szabo Sender: szabo@ifi.unizh.ch Status: O Hi, we want to implement the following setup: Workplace 1: Graphics Console "regular" Onux keyboard plugged in the keyboard input Workplace 2: 2 Graphics Screens with MCO SGI 15 pin keyboard (optical mouse attached to it) We have only a 1 pipe Onyx, with an additional Serial IO Board (6 slots)! The 2 keyboards are connected through a switch box to the "regular" keyboard input of the onyx. keyboard_1 <----------------| (Graphics Console) V switch_box -------> Onyx Keyboard Input ^ keyboard_2 <----------------| (MCO Screens) We want to use this setup to run 2 workplaces, the keyboards enabled by the corresponding switch box position. SGI local office says: "...you can NOT unplug the keyboard if the system is running." I personally can not believe, that there is no possible solution to the above idea. Any suggestions and existing/working solutions are welcome. Thanks in advance Kornel Szabo MultiMedia Lab From guest Wed Apr 12 10:02:12 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id JAA18019; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 09:46:27 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id JAA18016; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 09:46:23 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA01450; Wed, 12 Apr 95 09:46:22 -0700 Received: from lurch.Read.TASC.COM by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id JAA03666; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 09:46:18 -0700 Received: from smtpgate.read.tasc.com by lurch.Read.TASC.COM (4.1/TASC-NONDOM-1.5) id AA27575; Wed, 12 Apr 95 11:53:12 EDT Received: from TASCREAD-Message_Server by smtpgate.read.tasc.com with WordPerfect_Office; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 11:53:12 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: WordPerfect Office 4.0 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 11:51:15 -0500 From: "J. Brian Stewart" To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Running 2 keyboards on an Onyx Status: O >> We want to use this setup to run 2 workplaces, the keyboards >>enabled by the corresponding switch box position. >> SGI local office says: "...you can NOT unplug the keyboard if the >> system is running." >>I personally can not believe, that there is no possible solution to the >> above idea. Any suggestions and existing/working solutions are >> welcome. We have a keyboard in our Vis. Lab and one in our conference room that we switch between all the time with a 6-pin mini-din switch box. Guess we didn't know any better. ;-) Brian Stewart TASC jbstewart@tasc.com From guest Wed Apr 12 13:58:55 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id NAA18950; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 13:45:44 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id NAA18947; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 13:45:43 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA08095; Wed, 12 Apr 95 13:45:38 -0700 Received: from holodeck.asd.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id NAA07855; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 13:45:15 -0700 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer@sgi.sgi.com id NAA18606; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 13:31:59 -0700 From: aschaffe (Allan Schaffer) Message-Id: <9504121331.ZM18604@holodeck.asd.sgi.com> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 13:31:58 -0700 In-Reply-To: Kornel Szabo "Running 2 Keyboards on an Onyx" (Apr 12, 4:21pm) References: <199504121420.HAA16248@sgi.sgi.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Re: Running 2 Keyboards on an Onyx Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O > that we switch between all the time with a 6-pin mini-din switch > box. Guess we didn't know any better. ;-) It's a "bug" (perhaps fixed by now) and in all likelihood, if you're doing that, you'll get bitten eventually. A recent advisory sent to all SGI support personnel said: DO NOT PLUG/UNPLUG the keyboard or mouse while the [Onyx or Power Onyx] is powered on. Keyboard and mouse power is fused, plugging and unplugging risks these fuses. Bring spare fuses. Allan -- Allan Schaffer aschaffe@sgi.com Silicon Graphics http://reality.sgi.com/employees/aschaffe From guest Wed Apr 12 17:13:48 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id QAA19716; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 16:56:37 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id QAA19713; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 16:56:36 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA02901; Wed, 12 Apr 95 16:56:36 -0700 Received: from redgate.vislab.su.edu.au by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id QAA14149; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 16:56:23 -0700 From: horne@vislab.su.edu.au Received: from ford.vislab.su.edu.au by redgate.vislab.su.edu.au via SMTP (950215.SGI.8.6.10/940406.SGI) id JAA10077; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 09:22:34 +1000 Received: by ford.vislab.su.edu.au (931110.SGI/921111.SGI) for info-performer@sgi.com id AA23025; Thu, 13 Apr 95 09:22:34 +1000 Message-Id: <9504122322.AA23025@ford.vislab.su.edu.au> Subject: Re: Textures To: aut@engin.umich.edu (Choon H Lee) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 09:22:34 +1000 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <199504121754.NAA17935@spenser.engin.umich.edu> from "Choon H Lee" at Apr 12, 95 01:54:31 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2147 Status: O This is something that Choon H Lee wrote: > > We have currently a problem with our program which translates our > own file format (svr) such that it can be read with Performer. The > program works fine, but we encountered troubles with textures. It > works fine when textures are not applied at all in the original file > format, but when textures are used, and loaded into Performer they > seem to color all other objects with the dominant color of its last > uploaded texture. > > Did anyone encounter similar problems in the past? funny - i had the same problem about 6 weeks ago - here's the solution: >> Message 2/7 From Sharon Clay Mar 16, 95 01:00:27 >> >> You can set the texture enable on the pfGeoState of any model: >> pfGStateMode(gstate, PFSTATE_ENTEXTURE, PF_ON or PF_OFF); >> By default, all pfGeoState settings inherit from the global state. >> Perfly (and libpf) assumes that on machines with fast texture, you will >> choose to have the majority of your database textured and so >> texture is enabled by default. Objects with pfGeoState that >> do not set the texture or the enable will inherit both from >> the global state. This way, objects will be textured on fast machines, >> but not on slow machines. Objects that have no texture should set >> pfGStateMode(gstate, PFSTATE_ENTEXTURE, PF_OFF); -----{-----{---@ -----{----{---@ -----{----{---@ -----{----{---@ Sharon Rose Clay (Fischler) - Silicon Graphics, Advanced Graphics Dev. src@sgi.com (415) 390 - 1002 FAX: (415) 965 - 2658 MS 8U-590 -----{-----{---@ -----{----{---@ -----{----{---@ -----{----{---@ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Geoff Horne, horne@vislab.su.edu.au http://www.usyd.edu.au/~ghorne Computational Scientist and VisLab conundrum rectifier ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Don't take life too seriously, you don't get out of it alive anyway" Burt Ward From guest Thu Apr 13 03:38:07 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id DAA23043; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 03:18:26 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id DAA23040; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 03:18:21 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA23421; Thu, 13 Apr 95 03:18:20 -0700 Received: from iss.nus.sg by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id DAA18521; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 03:18:17 -0700 Received: from whitehead.iss.nus.sg by iss.nus.sg (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA14886; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 18:20:26 +0800 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 18:20:26 +0800 From: fair@iss.nus.sg (Kim Michael Fairchild) Message-Id: <9504131020.AA14886@iss.nus.sg> Received: by whitehead.iss.nus.sg (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA00929; Thu, 13 Apr 95 18:20:04 SST To: info-performer Subject: popping out stereo Status: O Hi, We recently have received a stereo-ready electrohome and are VERY pleased on the improvement of our demo setup. Now we are greedier, we have modified perfly extensively and added code from sfly. Now what we would like to do is to get the objects to POP out of the screen (half in / out), we would surely appreciate if someone would tell us how to do it. We have heard about "cross-eyeing", but could not seem to get any thing but a headache :-> thanks, Kim. PS Code would be wonderful! From guest Thu Apr 13 05:07:58 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id EAA23151; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 04:48:37 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id EAA23148; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 04:48:36 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA24538; Thu, 13 Apr 95 04:48:34 -0700 Received: from ligsg10.epfl.ch by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id EAA22630; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 04:48:32 -0700 Received: by ligsg10.epfl.ch (Smail3.1.29.1 #28) id m0rzNNt-0000MkC; Thu, 13 Apr 95 13:48 MET DST From: "Fernando D. Mato Mira" Message-Id: <9504131348.ZM8977@lig.di.epfl.ch> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 13:48:29 +0200 In-Reply-To: fair@iss.nus.sg (Kim Michael Fairchild) "popping out stereo" (Apr 13, 6:20pm) References: <9504131020.AA14886@iss.nus.sg> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: fair@iss.nus.sg (Kim Michael Fairchild), info-performer Subject: Re: popping out stereo Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O On Apr 13, 6:20pm, Kim Michael Fairchild wrote: > Subject: popping out stereo > Hi, > > We recently have received a stereo-ready electrohome and are VERY > pleased on the improvement of our demo setup. > > Now we are greedier, we have modified perfly extensively and added code > from sfly. Now what we would like to do is to get the objects to POP > out of the screen (half in / out), we would surely appreciate if > someone would tell us how to do it. > What you need is a really big screen. The trick for great `poping-out' is to have as much parallax as you can get. We're getting a Sony projector for normal use, but as the specs rate it upto 150Hz vertically, and 1500x1200 resolution, I hope we'll be able to use it with the Crystal Eyes, too! From guest Thu Apr 13 03:37:52 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id DAA23048; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 03:19:18 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id DAA23045; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 03:19:17 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA23430; Thu, 13 Apr 95 03:19:12 -0700 Received: from relay.iunet.it by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id DAA18324; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 03:12:13 -0700 Received: from hpdtmt2.UUCP by relay.iunet.it with UUCP id AA24719 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4 for info-performer%sgi.com@iunet.it); Thu, 13 Apr 1995 12:13:32 +0200 Message-Id: <199504131013.AA24719@relay.iunet.it> Received: by hpdtmt2 (16.6/16.2) id AA08144; Thu, 13 Apr 95 11:56:36 +0200 From: Marco Crocetta Subject: DB Paging To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Date: Thu, 13 Apr 95 11:56:35 METDST Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] Status: O Hi, I was reading in an old mail of someone who asked some information about a database-paging functionality to be incorporated in a future release of Performer. I think that DB paging could be related to the problem of a run-time loading/unloading of parts of a large terrain DB according to the actual Viewpoint position, say LAT/LON (is it correct ?). I'm (relatively) new to Performer & Visual Simulation so I like to know if there is some documentation, articles, example,hints...etc.. relating to Terrain DB organization & management. An example could be: if I have to simulate a fly through Italy I don't like to load the entire Italy.flt (if any) DB but just a "tile" (say Rome.flt). When I begin to leave Rome and approaching Florence I-d like to load Florence.flt and unload the Rome.flt file (say removing the node). I know about spatial organization inside a single DB file, and I wonder if there is something similar, for a "larger" (at higher level) spatial organization among various Terrain DB files. In short, any information about this topic would be of great interest! Thanks in Advance -------------------------- Marco Crocetta DATAMAT SpA, Rome e-mail:onyx@datamat.it -------------------------- From guest Wed Apr 12 19:40:51 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id TAA21839; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 19:21:01 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id TAA21836; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 19:21:00 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA12706; Wed, 12 Apr 95 19:20:59 -0700 Received: from munnari.oz.au by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id TAA03878; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 19:20:48 -0700 Received: from titanic.iconix.oz (via mtiame) by munnari.oz.au with SunIII (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA14482; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 11:09:30 +1000 (from sl%imta.com.au@titanic.iconix.oz.au) Message-Id: <9504130109.14482@munnari.oz.au> Received: from bismarck.imta.com.au by titanic.imta.com.au with SMTP (920330.SGI) id AA14724; Thu, 13 Apr 95 09:04:03 +1000 To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Re: Running 2 Keyboards on an Onyx In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 12 Apr 1995 13:31:58 EST." <9504121331.ZM18604@holodeck.asd.sgi.com> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 09:03:56 EST From: Steven Lynch Status: O Allan Schaffer writes: > > A recent advisory sent to all SGI support personnel said: > > DO NOT PLUG/UNPLUG the keyboard or mouse while the [Onyx or > Power Onyx] is powered on. Keyboard and mouse power is > fused, plugging and unplugging risks these fuses. Bring > spare fuses. If this is the real reason for not changing keyboards then ... Dual keyboard switching can be done by not using the internal power supply at all. Use a separate supply capable of running both keyboards, connect it to the ground reference of the original keyboard supply and keep both keyboards ticking over all the time. The switch box should then only switch the signal wires. However, having said that, it would also be a perfectly reasonable question to ask SGI why their power supply fusing cannot handle a switch on surge? Surely it shouldn't be necessary to make a maintenance call when somebody quite innocently trips over the keyboard cable and then replaces it. Especially since there is no strain relief on the keyboard cable connection. Maybe there are other reasons and if so, I would be interested to know what they are. Steven ............................................................................... Steven Lynch Email: sl@imta.com.au, ...uunet!imta.com.au!sl Development Engineer Snail: In-Mar-Tech Australia Pty Ltd Phone: +61 3 696-4009 10 Boundary Street Fax: +61 3 696-7449 South Melbourne, Vic, 3205, Australia Quote: Atilla The Hun's Maxim: If you're going to rape, pillage and burn, be sure to do things in that order --- P. J. Plauger, Programming On Purpose Disclaimer: The opinions expressed above are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of In-Mar-Tech Australia ............................................................................... From guest Thu Apr 13 14:08:28 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id NAA25218; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 13:51:02 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id NAA25214; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 13:51:01 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA17711; Thu, 13 Apr 95 13:50:53 -0700 Received: from netcom7.netcom.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id NAA22230; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 13:50:51 -0700 Received: by netcom7.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id NAA29364; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 13:50:43 -0700 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 13:50:42 -0700 (PDT) From: David Ng Subject: SUBSCRIBE To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O Please add me to the subscriber's list. Thanks, David Ng From guest Thu Apr 13 19:03:39 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id SAA26170; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 18:46:36 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id SAA26167; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 18:46:35 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA02246; Thu, 13 Apr 95 18:46:34 -0700 Received: from ix4.ix.netcom.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id SAA16520; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 18:46:33 -0700 Received: from by ix4.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id SAA27497; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 18:46:14 -0700 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 18:46:14 -0700 Message-Id: <199504140146.SAA27497@ix4.ix.netcom.com> From: blastarr@ix.netcom.com (Kent Miller) Subject: Polhemus FASTRAK To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Status: O I would appreciate any info at all about how to integrate the Polhemus FASTRAK head-tracker into a Performer app. I got my Spaceball in, no problem, since it already exists as a GL input device in IRIX 5.2 Polhemus is totally clueless (Duh, we don't have no SGI's here...), and 1-800-800-4SGI got me a similar response (We don't do 3rd party), and I have never tried to build my own device driver before. The README in 4Dgifts/examples/devices/input says that there's no straightforward way to add a GL input device, and to use the X Input Extensions. It looks like a pretty gnarly process to go that way. So if anyone's done this before, or knows someone who's done this before, lemme know! I already have info on the MR Toolkit from U of Alberta. I may not have enough time to go that route (because of customer red tape). Thanks! From guest Fri Apr 14 07:04:39 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id GAA03053; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 06:43:16 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id GAA03050; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 06:43:16 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA16513; Fri, 14 Apr 95 06:43:11 -0700 Received: from chenas.inria.fr by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id GAA28954; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 06:43:01 -0700 Received: from syseca.fr ([192.93.110.126]) by chenas.inria.fr (5.65c8d/92.02.29) via Fnet-EUnet id AA13599; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 15:42:52 +0200 (MET) Received: from anna by syseca.fr (4.1/SMU-4.0 22/11/92 Syseca) id AA04793; Fri, 14 Apr 95 15:44:18 +0200 Received: by anna (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@sgi.com id AA04275; Fri, 14 Apr 95 10:49:17 +0200 Date: Fri, 14 Apr 95 10:49:17 +0200 From: gce@syseca.fr (Cedric Gautier) Message-Id: <9504140849.AA04275@anna> To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Re> Polhemus FASTRAK Status: O blastarr wrotes: I would appreciate any info at all about how to integrate the Polhemus FASTRAK head-tracker into a Performer app. I got my Spaceball in, no problem, since it already exists as a GL input device in IRIX 5.2 answer: I think one of the best way to integrate a Fastrak in a Performer app is to make a separate process which will communicate with the main Performer app through shared memory with DPool management ! ... Hereafter is a complete code of this separate procees I made for my own tests ... #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #define STV_POOL_ID 1 #define STV_POOL_SIZE 256 #define STV_POOL_NAME "fastrak" static int fast_fd; static pfDataPool *stvDataPool; static float *stvPoolMem, *stvPoolPtr; void abort() { pfReleaseDPool(stvDataPool); close(fast_fd); exit(0); } main(int argc, char **argv) { struct termio arg; float x1, y1, z1, h1, p1, r1; float x2, y2, z2, h2, p2, r2; char buf[50], c1, c2, c3; int v= 0; signal(SIGINT, abort); if (argc>1) if (strcmp(argv[1], "+")==0) v= 1; while ((stvDataPool= pfAttachDPool(STV_POOL_NAME))==NULL) fprintf(stderr, "\t- Data Pool Attach ...\r"); stvPoolMem= (float *)pfDPoolFind(stvDataPool, STV_POOL_ID); fprintf(stderr, "\t- Ready \n"); if ((fast_fd= open("/dev/ttyd1", O_RDWR))== -1) perror("open"); if (ioctl(fast_fd, TCGETA, &arg)== -1) perror("geta"); arg.c_cflag = B38400| CS7| PARENB| CREAD| CLOCAL| HUPCL; arg.c_iflag= 0; arg.c_lflag= ICANON; arg.c_oflag= 0; arg.c_line= 0; arg.c_cc[VTIME]= 0; arg.c_cc[VMIN]= 0; if (ioctl(fast_fd, TCSETA, &arg)== -1) perror("seta"); if (write(fast_fd, "u", 1)!= 1) fprintf(stderr, "write\n"); if (write(fast_fd, "H1,0,0,1\r\n", 10)!= 10) fprintf(stderr, "write\n"); if (write(fast_fd, "H2,0,0,1\r\n", 10)!= 10) fprintf(stderr, "write\n"); while(1) { if (write(fast_fd, "P", 1)!= 1) fprintf(stderr, "ask\n"); if (read(fast_fd, buf, 47)!= 47) fprintf(stderr, "read\n"); buf[46]= '\0'; sscanf(buf, "%c%c%c%f%f%f%f%f%f", &c1, &c2, &c3, &x1, &y1, &z1, &h1, &p1, &r1); if (c3!=' ') fprintf(stderr, "\t- Warning [%c] On Tracker 1\n", c3); if (v) { fprintf(stderr, "RAW: %s\n", buf); fprintf(stderr, "COD: %c%c%c [ %3.2f %3.2f %3.2f ][ %3.2f %3.2f %3.2f ]\n", c1, c2, c3, x1, y1, z1, h1, p1, r1); fflush(stderr); } if (read(fast_fd, buf, 47)!= 47) fprintf(stderr, "read\n"); buf[46]= '\0'; sscanf(buf, "%c%c%c%f%f%f%f%f%f", &c1, &c2, &c3, &x2, &y2, &z2, &h2, &p2, &r2); if (c3!=' ') fprintf(stderr, "\t- Warning [%c] On Tracker 2\n", c3); if (v) { fprintf(stderr, "RAW: %s\n", buf); fprintf(stderr, "COD: %c%c%c [ %3.2f %3.2f %3.2f ][ %3.2f %3.2f %3.2f ]\n", c1, c2, c3, x2, y2, z2, h2, p2, r2); fflush(stderr); } pfDPoolLock(stvPoolMem); stvPoolPtr= stvPoolMem; *stvPoolPtr++= fabsf(x1); *stvPoolPtr++= fabsf(y1); *stvPoolPtr++= fabsf(z1); *stvPoolPtr++= h1; *stvPoolPtr++= p1; *stvPoolPtr++= r1; *stvPoolPtr++= fabsf(x2); *stvPoolPtr++= fabsf(y2); *stvPoolPtr++= fabsf(z2); *stvPoolPtr++= h2; *stvPoolPtr++= p2; *stvPoolPtr++= r2; pfDPoolUnlock(stvPoolMem); } } Note: this is done for two trackers and it should be usefull to get datas in binary mode instead of ascii one ! ... Good Luck ! ... Cedric Thomson Group email: gce@syseca.fr From guest Fri Apr 14 07:04:54 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id GAA03048; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 06:43:08 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id GAA03045; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 06:43:07 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA16501; Fri, 14 Apr 95 06:43:06 -0700 Received: from chenas.inria.fr by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id GAA28956; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 06:43:02 -0700 Received: from syseca.fr ([192.93.110.126]) by chenas.inria.fr (5.65c8d/92.02.29) via Fnet-EUnet id AA13597; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 15:42:51 +0200 (MET) Received: from anna by syseca.fr (4.1/SMU-4.0 22/11/92 Syseca) id AA04792; Fri, 14 Apr 95 15:44:17 +0200 Received: by anna (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@sgi.com id AA04291; Fri, 14 Apr 95 11:05:04 +0200 Date: Fri, 14 Apr 95 11:05:04 +0200 From: gce@syseca.fr (Cedric Gautier) Message-Id: <9504140905.AA04291@anna> To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Re> Polhemus FASTRAK Status: O forget to tell to blastarr to change coordinates in the main app: here is the app part of the code ... pfDPoolLock(stvPoolMem); stvPoolPtr= stvPoolMem; stvCoord1xyz[0]= *stvPoolPtr++; stvCoord1xyz[1]= *stvPoolPtr++; stvCoord1xyz[2]= *stvPoolPtr++; stvCoord1hpr[0]= (*stvPoolPtr++)-90.0f; stvCoord1hpr[1]= -(*stvPoolPtr++); stvCoord1hpr[2]= *stvPoolPtr++; stvCoord2xyz[0]= *stvPoolPtr++; stvCoord2xyz[1]= *stvPoolPtr++; stvCoord2xyz[2]= *stvPoolPtr++; stvCoord2hpr[0]= (*stvPoolPtr++)-90.0f; stvCoord2hpr[1]= -(*stvPoolPtr++); stvCoord2hpr[2]= *stvPoolPtr++; pfDPoolUnlock(stvPoolMem); Well I think that's all ... I am using only a quarter of the usable half sphere processed by the fastrak cause of strange sign chnage in xyz which I did not solve for now ... sign changes are artefacts (may be one per 100) providing uncorrect view behaviour sometimes ! ... I forgot also to tell you that depending on your app you may have to calibrate the fastrak using the alignment command name 'A' with several parameters if you want to match a reel reference for instance ! ... (the code for that is in progress !) ... See you ... Cedric Thomson Group email: gce@syseca.fr From guest Fri Apr 14 09:48:57 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id JAA03340; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 09:30:49 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id JAA03337; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 09:30:49 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA23419; Fri, 14 Apr 95 09:30:44 -0700 Received: from netcom13.netcom.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id JAA17625; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 09:30:42 -0700 Received: by netcom13.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id JAA04104; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 09:30:33 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 09:30:33 -0700 (PDT) From: David Ng Subject: Help texturing To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O Hi, Appreciate any help I can get. I'm new to Performer. I'm interested in putting a tree texture on a billboard and just having the tree texture while the background blends in with the surroundings. My understanding is to use alpha blending and set alpha for the background. While testing with texture.c (an SGI sample texture program) and alpha blending, I can get just the tree and the blending background on an Indigo Extreme but it does work on an Onyx (with hardware texture map). Does anyone have any sample code I can look at ? Thanks Dave /* * texture.c: simple Performer program to demonstrate textured poly's. * * $Revision: 1.2 $ $Date: 1994/11/25 21:15:07 $ * */ long numGSets; long numPrims; long primType; long* primLengths = NULL; pfGeoState* gstate = NULL; pfGeoSet* gset = NULL; pfTexture *tex; pfTexEnv *tev; pfVec2 *newTexCoords = NULL; gset = pfGetGSet (obj->graphics, i); primType = pfGetGSetPrimType (gset); numPrims = pfGetGSetNumPrims (gset); gstate = pfGetGSetGState (gset); pfGStateMode (gstate, PFSTATE_ENTEXTURE, PF_ON); tev = pfNewTEnv (_sys->arena); pfTEnvMode(tev, PFTE_ALPHA); pfGStateAttr (gstate, PFSTATE_TEXENV, tev); pfGStateAttr (gstate, PFSTATE_TEXTURE, tex); pfGetGSetAttrLists (gset, PFGS_COORD3, (void**) &plist, &pilist); ..... newTexCoords = (pfVec2 *)pfMalloc((uint)(sizeof(pfVec2) * numPrims * 4),arena); ..... pfGSetAttr(gset, PFGS_TEXCOORD2,PFGS_PER_VERTEX, newTexCoords, pilist); From guest Fri Apr 14 12:23:36 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id MAA03719; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 12:08:56 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id MAA03716; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 12:08:51 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA02032; Fri, 14 Apr 95 12:08:46 -0700 Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id MAA19563; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 12:08:41 -0700 Received: from xatrix.com by netcomsv.netcom.com with UUCP (8.6.9/SMI-4.1) id MAA05092; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 12:03:09 -0700 Received: from chris-pc.xatrix.com by xatrix.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/921111.SGI.AUTO.ANONFTP) for @netcomsv:info-performer@sgi.com id AA04040; Fri, 14 Apr 95 11:59:37 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Apr 95 11:59:37 -0700 Message-Id: <9504141859.AA04040@xatrix.com> X-Sender: chris@xatrix.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com From: chris@xatrix.com (Chris Morrow) Subject: Raster Managers, etc. Status: O I'm looking for two RM5 boards and would like to know: 1 - do any SGI customers on this mail list know if their organization has surplus RE-II parts they want to sell? 2 - do any of the SGI staff on this mail list know of surplus RE-II demo equipment that is currently (or will soon) be available for sale. Also, Xatrix Entertainment is in the West LA area. We always have our eyes open for talented 3D graphics software developers with a simulation background. If you're working on SGI equipment and have programming experience with some (or all - is this possible?) of: GL/OpenGL, Unix, C, C++, X/Motif, GVS, Performer, VisionWorks, MultiGen, DWB, Alias, Prisms, 3D-Studio, vehicle dynamics, 6DOF motion systems, analog & digital I/O systems... ...and you want to work in the wacky world of computer games, send me some information about yourself via email. Thanks. ***************************************************************** * Chris Morrow - Xatrix Entertainment Inc. - chris@xatrix.com * * Tel. (310) 207-2899 Extension 204 Fax. (310) 207-1419 * ***************************************************************** From guest Fri Apr 14 19:12:14 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id SAA05774; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 18:53:01 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id SAA05769; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 18:53:00 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA23586; Fri, 14 Apr 95 18:52:56 -0700 Received: from sgihub.corp.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id SAA21040; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 18:52:53 -0700 Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by sgihub.corp.sgi.com via SMTP (940519.SGI.8.6.9/911001.SGI) for id SAA11314; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 18:52:52 -0700 Received: from tubes.asd.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@sgi.sgi.com id AA23573; Fri, 14 Apr 95 18:52:48 -0700 Received: by tubes.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id SAA28513; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 18:50:25 -0700 From: jrohlf@tubes (John Rohlf) Message-Id: <199504150150.SAA28513@tubes.asd.sgi.com> Subject: Re: Extracting a named group from a scene graph... To: guest (Andy Mirkis) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 95 18:50:24 PDT Cc: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <9504101756.ZM20351@jupiter.ucsd.edu>; from "Andy Mirkis" at Apr 10, 95 5:56 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL8] Status: O > > > Has anybody ever tried to extract a portion of a scene graph (say, > all nodes below a named group) and place it under a DCS or SCS?? I've > been working on this for a while with mixed results. Basically, > I remove the group node from the scene graph, traverse its children > down to the geosets and change the vertices so that they are defined > relative to the extracted objects center - the groups bsphere center > (making this the objects origin). Then I move the children under the > new DCS node. > > This 'almost' seems to work. I have the object in question spinning > in place and I can only see it during ~90 degrees of its rotation. > Even though the isect traversal masks seem to be set, intersection > (collision and picking) doesn't seem to work. > > I also noticed from the scene dump that the vertices have been changed > but the bsphere center for all nodes seem to be the same as before > extraction. I've tried setting them all explicitly using: > > pfNodeBSphere(node, NULL, PFN_BMODE_DYNAMIC); > > Is there something I need to do to explicitly change an object's origin? > I know I'm missing something here, I'm just not sure what. Any pointers > or suggestions would be appreciated! > pfGeoSets don't know when their coordinates change so their bounding boxes are not automatically updated and geodes just look at geoset bounding boxes. Call pfGSetBBox(gset, NULL); to force recomputation of the geoset bounding box. Then call pfNodeBSphere(node, NULL, PFN_BMODE_DYNAMIC); to force recomputation of the node bounding sphere. From guest Fri Apr 14 19:27:17 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id TAA05806; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 19:07:58 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id TAA05803; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 19:07:58 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA24104; Fri, 14 Apr 95 19:07:50 -0700 Received: from sgihub.corp.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id TAA22169; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 19:07:48 -0700 Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by sgihub.corp.sgi.com via SMTP (940519.SGI.8.6.9/911001.SGI) for id TAA11777; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 19:07:47 -0700 Received: from tubes.asd.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@sgi.sgi.com id AA24095; Fri, 14 Apr 95 19:07:27 -0700 Received: by tubes.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id TAA28565; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 19:05:08 -0700 From: jrohlf@tubes (John Rohlf) Message-Id: <199504150205.TAA28565@tubes.asd.sgi.com> Subject: Re: Highlight & DCS To: guest (Christina Fyock) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 95 19:05:08 PDT Cc: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <9504031801.AA00811@capella.tsc.gtefsd.com.tsc>; from "Christina Fyock" at Apr 3, 95 2:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL8] Status: O > > > Hi, > > I am having a problem highlighting objects that have a DCS node directly > above them. I have created a Modelgen DOF bead above a group object. > When I get in proximity I want to highlight that object and then animate it > using the DOF cabilities built in by modelgen. I also create the > exact same object without the DOF bead in the model. I can highlight the > object that does not have the DOF/DCS node above it but I can not > highlight the one that does. The object with the DOF bead above seems > to be correctly getting the pfGeoSet node to highlight and I get no > errors when I try to call the pfGSetHlight call, it just seems to ignore > it. The animation portion of the DOF/DCS node on this object works correctly, > but does not highlight. I know I am getting the right node to highlight. > Is this possibly a known error in Performer 1.2? > > Any help would be appreciated, I have checked and rechecked nodes and > confirmed that all the right information is being passed, and since it > works on the object that does not have the DCS/DOF object, I am assuming > it is a problem with the DOF/DCS node above it. > > We are running Irix 5.2 on an SGI Skywriter. This could be an artifact of sorting. Try turning it off through pfChanTravMode. Exactly how are you enabling highlighting? Rather than pfGSetHlight you can try calling pfApplyHlight/pfEnable(PFEN_HIGHLIGHT) in a pre DRAW callback and calling pfDisable(PFEN_HIGHLIGHT) in the post DRAW callback. From guest Fri Apr 14 17:42:39 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id RAA05164; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 17:29:42 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id RAA05161; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 17:29:38 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA20495; Fri, 14 Apr 95 17:29:34 -0700 Received: from Arizona.EDU by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id RAA11914; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 17:29:31 -0700 Received: from crimson.mse.arizona.edu by Arizona.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #2381) id <01HPC5F4DHB48Y5SRK@Arizona.EDU>; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 17:29:27 -0700 (MST) Received: by crimson.mse.arizona.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer@sgi.com id TAA02621; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 19:19:55 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 19:19:53 -0700 From: "Frank J. Cherne" Subject: Earlier Posting Regarding Crystal Eyes To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Message-Id: <9504141919.ZM2619@crimson.mse.arizona.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O There was an earlier posting regarding Crystal Eyes Solutions and there was made mention of some kind of projector made by I think Sony, could someone please post details on the projector. Thanks, Frank Cherne The University of Arizona From guest Sat Apr 15 06:47:50 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id GAA06529; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 06:26:49 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id GAA06526; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 06:26:40 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA04125; Sat, 15 Apr 95 06:26:31 -0700 Received: from iss.nus.sg by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id GAA21365; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 06:26:28 -0700 Received: from whitehead.iss.nus.sg by iss.nus.sg (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA27827; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 21:28:45 +0800 Date: Sat, 15 Apr 1995 21:28:45 +0800 From: fair@iss.nus.sg (Kim Michael Fairchild) Message-Id: <9504151328.AA27827@iss.nus.sg> Received: by whitehead.iss.nus.sg (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA01106; Sat, 15 Apr 95 21:28:43 SST To: info-performer Subject: getting the GUI working with Stereo Status: O Hi, We integrated the sfly with perfly to get stereo, but have one problem. The gui appears only in one eye, something guaranteed to cause head-aches with our demoees. Can some one please send us the hack to get the gui to draw in both channels. I spent a couple of hours searching thru libpfutil but I am quite confused about where to put the stereo hacks in. thanks much, Kim. PS No one answered our last question about how to get the stereo images to pop out of the display. On our projected display, they end EXACTLY on the surface of the screen. If someone could point us in the right direction, we have lots of code and expertize that we could trade with them. From guest Sat Apr 15 09:54:47 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id JAA06776; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 09:33:21 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id JAA06773; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 09:33:20 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA06118; Sat, 15 Apr 95 09:33:19 -0700 Received: from ligsg10.epfl.ch by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id JAA27265; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 09:33:16 -0700 Received: by ligsg10.epfl.ch (Smail3.1.29.1 #28) id m0s0AmV-0000NSC; Sat, 15 Apr 95 18:33 MET DST From: "Fernando D. Mato Mira" Message-Id: <9504151833.ZM14770@lig.di.epfl.ch> Date: Sat, 15 Apr 1995 18:33:11 +0200 In-Reply-To: "Frank J. Cherne" "Earlier Posting Regarding Crystal Eyes" (Apr 14, 7:19pm) References: <9504141919.ZM2619@crimson.mse.arizona.edu> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: "Frank J. Cherne" Subject: Re: Earlier Posting Regarding Crystal Eyes Cc: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O On Apr 14, 7:19pm, Frank J. Cherne wrote: > Subject: Earlier Posting Regarding Crystal Eyes > There was an earlier posting regarding Crystal Eyes Solutions and there was > made mention of some kind of projector made by I think Sony, could someone > please post details on the projector. I got email from a person at IBM, advising to check out the kind of phosphor in the green tube (they are generally slower to increase image brightness, but this is detrimental for stereo use). I called Sony and they said there's an option ("not much more expensive") where these projector comes with a different green tube (or, you can change it later, but it's going to cost more). You'd better check with your local distributor to see when this will be available. I also got email from someone using a Sony beamer already, and he did not mention any problems (although maybe they were not picky enough), so if you're going to use it for non-stereo viewing also, you'd better test both configs at both jobs. Please note that I haven't checked any other brands, so this is not necessarily the best gear/deal. From guest Mon Apr 17 04:40:22 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id EAA09369; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 04:10:13 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id EAA09366; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 04:10:12 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA07666; Mon, 17 Apr 95 04:10:11 -0700 Received: from mail.eecs.uic.edu by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id EAA05571; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 04:10:09 -0700 Received: from ernie.eecs.uic.edu (ernie.eecs.uic.edu [128.248.176.24]) by mail.eecs.uic.edu (8.6.11/8.6.10) with ESMTP id GAA18367; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 06:10:14 -0500 Received: (mhuang@localhost) by ernie.eecs.uic.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) id GAA04866; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 06:10:29 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 06:10:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Milana Huang To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Cc: David Pape , lindahl@evl.eecs.uic.edu, Milana Huang Subject: Triple Keyboard Option Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O Hello Performer People, My setup: Performer 1.2 with Irix 5.3 on an Onyx with 8 processors, 3 Reality Engines and Triple Keyboard Option installed (supports 3 monitor/keyboard pairs for the 1 Onyx). My problem: I would like my Performer program to open 3 windows, 1 on each display/monitor. With Triple Keyboard Option I can no longer use scrnselect() to do that. Each pipe is now a separate display - :0, :1, :2 (each with only ONE screen). My attempted fix: Use putenv(). My routine I send to pfInitPipe() looks essentially like this: void OpenPipeline(pfPipe * p) { putenv(StaticEnvVariable); /*StaticEnvVariable set to DISPLAY=:num where num is 0,1, or 2 */ sleep(5); prefposition(0, XMAX_96HZ, 0,YMAX_96HZ); noborder(); foreground(); winopen(""); stereobuffer(); doublebuffer(); gconfig(); pfInitGfx(p); } But doesn't do the trick. All the windows pile up on the same monitor. Please let me know a work around or if this is not possible with Triple Keyboard Option installed. Thank you very much, Milana ___________________________________________________________________________ Milana Huang Electronic Visualization Lab mhuang@eecs.uic.edu University of Illinois at Chicago (M/C 154) (312) 996-3002 851 S. Morgan, room 1120 SEO (312) 413-7585 FAX Chicago, IL 60607-7053 From guest Mon Apr 17 10:27:30 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id KAA10030; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:13:24 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id KAA10027; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:13:23 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA17401; Mon, 17 Apr 95 10:13:19 -0700 Received: from netcom.netcom.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id KAA15363; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:13:18 -0700 Received: by netcom.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id KAA07387; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:11:16 -0700 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:11:16 -0700 From: diddy@netcom.com (Tran Thai) Message-Id: <199504171711.KAA07387@netcom.netcom.com> To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: ptu / large data set Status: O Hello, I'm interested in the ptu tools. Curently I'm only starting using performer, and dont know really where to start. Where can I find info on building a very large model of the earth? (I have the data, but I'm not sure how to handle/prepare my 1meg sectors(tmesh) and my texture map (hires)) Thanks for any pointers / info, Stephan AWA TV (sgi var) From guest Mon Apr 17 11:12:25 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id KAA10131; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:53:04 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id KAA10128; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:53:03 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA19655; Mon, 17 Apr 95 10:52:59 -0700 Received: from netcom.netcom.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id KAA24768; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:52:57 -0700 Received: by netcom.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id KAA11509; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:32:13 -0700 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:32:13 -0700 From: diddy@netcom.com (Tran Thai) Message-Id: <199504171732.KAA11509@netcom.netcom.com> To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: offscreen rendering Status: O What is the recomended methode to render a frame offscreen? On a small system I want to render the animation offscreen and save each frame has a .jpeg image to be latter playedback realtime with a cosmo compress card. Stephan AWA TV From guest Mon Apr 17 11:11:52 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id KAA10126; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:52:29 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id KAA10123; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:52:24 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA19588; Mon, 17 Apr 95 10:51:27 -0700 Received: from sgihub.corp.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) id KAA24414; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:51:23 -0700 Received: from fnord.studio.sgi.com by sgihub.corp.sgi.com via ESMTP (940519.SGI.8.6.9/911001.SGI) id KAA04074; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:51:18 -0700 Received: by fnord.studio.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id KAA24474; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:48:39 -0700 From: "Wade Olsen" Message-Id: <9504171048.ZM24472@fnord.studio.sgi.com> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:48:39 -0700 In-Reply-To: blastarr@ix.netcom.com (Kent Miller) "Polhemus FASTRAK" (Apr 13, 6:46pm) References: <199504140146.SAA27497@ix4.ix.netcom.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: blastarr@ix.netcom.com (Kent Miller), info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Re: Polhemus FASTRAK Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O On Apr 13, 6:46pm, Kent Miller wrote: > Subject: Polhemus FASTRAK > I would appreciate any info at all about how to integrate the Polhemus > FASTRAK head-tracker into a Performer app. I got my Spaceball in, no > problem, since it already exists as a GL input device in IRIX 5.2 This test program lets you see if you fastrak is working. 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Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id EAA14893; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 04:30:54 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA24387; Tue, 18 Apr 95 04:30:41 -0700 Received: from disperse.demon.co.uk by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id EAA08672; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 04:30:39 -0700 Received: from punt.demon.co.uk by disperse.demon.co.uk id ab00761; 18 Apr 95 12:27 GMT-60:00 Received: from sirapgc.demon.co.uk by punt.demon.co.uk id aa29828; 18 Apr 95 12:19 GMT-60:00 Received: (from MAPI Compliant System) by sirapgc.demon.co.uk id b33f7e47 Tue, 18 Apr 95 12:19:18 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 95 12:19:18 GMT From: Chris Seal Reply-To: cseal@sirapgc.demon.co.uk Message-Id: To: info-performer Subject: RE: Popping Stereo X-Mailer: DICS Mapi Gateway 4.5 Status: O cseal@sirapgc.demon.co.uk >PS No one answered our last question about how to get the stereo >images to pop out of the display. On our projected display, they end >EXACTLY on the surface of the screen. If someone could point us in the >right direction, we have lots of code and expertize that we could >trade with them. I'm a bit confused here, but if your images show objects EXACTLY on the screen surface, then you DON'T have stereo. Is it possible that your left and right eye images are taken from the same viewpoint? In general you need 2 viewpoints, a set distance apart, which share a common gaze direction (i.e 2 views parallel to eachother). Each view should be skewed so that they meet at a distance which would define your screen plane. This is best done using asymmetric projections. Objects which are in front of the convergence plane should pop-out. It should be noted that the foreground in a stereo display is often less usable than the background. This is because eye-strain can result from the eyes having to look cross-eyed whilst focussing at a further distance (the screen). In general the foreground is more usable when; i) the screen is large and a more than a few metres away ii) the field of view is large (stops object being cut-off by the screen limits) iii) the objects are moving and are not too far in the foreground for too long. iv) the objects appear to have some physical support/connection back to objects near the screen plane The other thing that should be pointed out is that there is a limit to the maximum distance usable in the background. If 2 corresponding points in the left and right images have a physical separation on the screen of more than about 60mm then you asking the viewer to diverge their eyes! This is not an easy thing to do ;-) From guest Tue Apr 18 10:37:39 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id KAA15413; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 10:20:56 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id KAA15406; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 10:20:52 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA03883; Tue, 18 Apr 95 10:20:51 -0700 Received: from ctaeng.com by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id KAA22154; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 10:20:48 -0700 Received: from support.ctaeng.com by ctaeng.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04829; Tue, 18 Apr 95 11:20:47 MDT Received: from getreal.mss.ctaeng.com by support.ctaeng.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA13050; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 11:20:40 -0600 Received: by getreal.mss.ctaeng.com (931110.SGI/920502.SGI.AUTO) for @support.ctaeng.com:info-performer@sgi.com id AA01873; Tue, 18 Apr 95 11:21:57 -0600 From: "`Bwana' Bob Buckley" Message-Id: <9504181121.ZM1871@getreal.mss.ctaeng.com> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 11:21:51 -0600 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: pfLightPoint Color Binding? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Length: 564 Status: O How can I determine the color binding of a pfLightPoint? Thanks! =========================================================================== 'Bwana' Bob Buckley CTA, Inc. Sr. Software Engineer 5670 Greenwood Plaza Blvd Visual Systems Englewood, CO 80111 (303) 889-1207 (303) 889-1200 bbuckley@ctaeng.com (303) 889-1398 Fax =========================================================================== From guest Tue Apr 18 09:27:01 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id JAA15293; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 09:11:59 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id JAA15290; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 09:11:58 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA00764; Tue, 18 Apr 95 09:11:57 -0700 Received: from relay.iunet.it by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id JAA08362; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 09:10:36 -0700 Received: from hpdtmt2.UUCP by relay.iunet.it with UUCP id AA10652 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4 for info-performer%sgi.com@iunet.it); Tue, 18 Apr 1995 18:14:44 +0200 Message-Id: <199504181614.AA10652@relay.iunet.it> Received: by hpdtmt2 (16.6/16.2) id AA12128; Tue, 18 Apr 95 17:29:57 +0200 From: Marco Crocetta Subject: Fog question To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Date: Tue, 18 Apr 95 17:29:55 METDST Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] Status: O Hi, I need to implement Fog in my application. I have a big scene: my near clip plane is 0.5 and my far plane cannot be less that 20.000. When I try to simulate a "distant" fog the big ratio between the Far and near clip planes makes the fog "resolution" very low and I have a sort of ON/OFF fog effect for my distant scenary while I'd like it to be swallowed in the fog (say distant haze). I have a good effect just when I increase the Near clip plane: but this is not acceptable for me. I'm using the PIX_SPLINE flag on a ONYX Re2. Is it possible to increase fog "resolution" without changing the Near/Far clip planes values? Thank in Advance -------------------------- Marco Crocetta DATAMAT SpA, Rome e-mail: onyx@datamat.it -------------------------- From guest Tue Apr 18 11:26:33 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id LAA15748; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 11:10:35 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id LAA15745; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 11:10:34 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA06455; Tue, 18 Apr 95 11:10:34 -0700 Received: from nvl.client by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id LAA05215; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 11:10:31 -0700 Received: by nvl.client (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0s1HjH-0001QNC; Tue, 18 Apr 95 14:10 EDT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 18 Apr 95 14:10 EDT From: dslayton@nvl.army.mil (David Slayton) To: info-performer Subject: 12bit textures Cc: dslayton@nvl.army.mil Status: O I am currently working on a Performer Based Infra-Red Simulation which requires the use of 12bit component textures. I have created many variations of .inta image files, (full 16bit per component, 12 most significant bits pre component, 12 most significant bits per component right padded with Zero's, 12 least significant bits per component ....) and attempted various combinations of pfTexFormat calls to specify the internal and external formats of the image. We are currently using a modified version of the obj loader (for historical, open-format, and optimization reasons) and I have tried various attempts at using pfTexFormat() just before and/or after loading the call to pfLoadTexFile, and have had worse results than making no call to pfTexFormat() -- the ground has huge striped sections with mangled/missing texture and the tree polygons have miniturized multiple mangled tree textures on them. The best 12bit image I seem to be able to load (No calls to pfTexFormat() has a significant striping effect, as if the image were not formatted properly upon loading. I have an active 1800800SGI call with someone diligently working upon it, but with no success yet. Is there anyone out there that has actually achieved 12bit textures per component in Performer or a Performer/GL hybrid? Does anyone have any suggestions or examples of how I might achieve 12bit textures? Any help available would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Dave David A. Slayton E-OIR Measurements Inc. (703)704-3698 Night Vision and Electronic Sensors Directorate dslayton@nvl.army.mil Ft. Belvoir VA From guest Tue Apr 18 10:46:27 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id KAA15452; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 10:31:35 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id KAA15449; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 10:31:31 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA04437; Tue, 18 Apr 95 10:31:26 -0700 Received: from goya.eunet.es by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id KAA24181; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 10:31:19 -0700 Received: (uucp@localhost) by goya.eunet.es (8.6.10/13.07) id TAA03012 for info-performer@sgi.com; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 19:23:43 +0200 Received: by INDY3.comarts.es (920330.SGI/5.3) id AA06747 for info-performer@sgi.com; Tue, 18 Apr 95 18:19:19 GMT Date: Tue, 18 Apr 95 18:19:19 GMT From: "Nacho Sanz-Pastor Computer Arts + Developments VISSIM Div." Message-Id: <9504181819.AA06747@INDY3.comarts.es> To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Status: O On : Tue, 18 Apr 95 17:29:55 ,Marco Crocetta wrote: > Is it possible to increase fog "resolution" without changing >the Near/Far clip planes values? Fog resolution is tied to z buffer res, and unless you are using a 24bit zbuffer and can change it to 32 bit, you have found one of the hardest to deal with limitations in the RE. Very small changes in the z buffer range can be a big difference, it is worth trying. Nacho Sanz-Pastor nacho@comarts.es Computer Arts & Developments Anita Vindel 10 bajo 28023 Madrid Spain tel ++ 34 1 357 27 51 fax ++ 34 1 307 03 39 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Computer Arts & Developments Visual Simulation Group An asteriod has crashed on Earth, and the Dinosaurs are close to being extinct ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From guest Tue Apr 18 12:19:36 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id MAA15995; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 12:05:13 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id MAA15992; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 12:05:12 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA09401; Tue, 18 Apr 95 12:05:10 -0700 Received: from sgihub.corp.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) id MAA16762; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 12:05:08 -0700 Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by sgihub.corp.sgi.com via SMTP (940519.SGI.8.6.9/911001.SGI) id MAA26487; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 12:05:07 -0700 Received: from babar.asd.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for @sgihub.corp.sgi.com:nacho@comarts.es id AA09376; Tue, 18 Apr 95 12:05:04 -0700 Received: by babar.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id MAA11720; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 12:05:04 -0700 From: "Michael Jones" Message-Id: <9504181205.ZM11718@babar.asd.sgi.com> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 12:05:04 -0700 In-Reply-To: "Nacho Sanz-Pastor Computer Arts + Developments VISSIM Div." "" (Apr 18, 6:19pm) References: <9504181819.AA06747@INDY3.comarts.es> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: "Nacho Sanz-Pastor Computer Arts + Developments VISSIM Div." , info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O On Apr 18, 6:19pm, Nacho Sanz-Pastor Computer Arts + Developments VI wrote: > Subject: : :On : Tue, 18 Apr 95 17:29:55 ,Marco Crocetta wrote: : :> Is it possible to increase fog "resolution" without changing :>the Near/Far clip planes values? : : Fog resolution is tied to z buffer res, and unless you are using a 24bit :zbuffer and can change it to 32 bit, you have found one of the hardest :to deal with limitations in the RE. : : Very small changes in the z buffer range can be a big difference, it is :worth trying. I'll just add that changes to the near-clip distance are much more important than changes in the far clip distance. -- Be seeing you, Phone:415.390.1455 Fax:415.965.2658 M/S:8U-590 Michael T. Jones Silicon Graphics, Advanced Graphics Division mtj@sgi.com 2011 N. Shoreline Blvd., Mtn. View, CA 94039-7311 From guest Tue Apr 18 14:53:02 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id OAA16806; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 14:49:39 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id OAA16803; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 14:49:39 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA18309; Tue, 18 Apr 95 14:49:37 -0700 Received: from vsl.ist.ucf.edu by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id OAA18776; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 14:49:34 -0700 Received: from onyx.vsl.ist.ucf.edu by vsl.ist.ucf.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23753; Tue, 18 Apr 95 17:51:17 EDT Received: by onyx.vsl.ist.ucf.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9) id RAA02262; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 17:51:16 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 17:51:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Lance R. Marrou" To: Performer List Subject: detail textures Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O I have terrain (textured) with a detail texture. All of a sudden (it seems like, I'm not sure what caused the change), one of my vehicle models is also getting detailed by the ground texture when I move close to the vehicle. What is causing this? The texture on the ground is not the same as the one on the vehicle. Btw, I have other models which do not get detailed. One possibility is a texture parameter set from within MultiGen (the origin of the vehicle model), but the terrain is generated directly from IRIS Performer primitives. Thanks for any help. Also, if I turn lighting off, at what viewing angles will the scene become totally dark (as if the scene were lighted!). It seems that heading of >=0 and <= 270 cause this. What might I be doing wrong? ______________________________________________________________________________ /\ ______ /\____ ______ ______ E-mail: marrou@vsl.ist.ucf.edu Visual / / / _ / / __ // ____// ____/ VSL: (407)658-5073 Systems / /__ / /_/ / / / / // /___ / __/_ R. Marrou Fax: (407)658-5059 Lab /____//____/\\/_/ /_//_____//_____/ http://www.vsl.ist.ucf.edu/~marrou "Reap the whirlwind." "We don't need no thought control." From guest Tue Apr 18 18:47:12 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id SAA19125; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 18:38:20 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id SAA19122; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 18:38:19 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA29735; Tue, 18 Apr 95 18:38:18 -0700 Received: from radian.Nagoya.tcp-net.ad.jp by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id SAA00946; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 18:38:15 -0700 Received: from tytcprm.tytlabs.co.jp (tytcprm.tytlabs.co.jp [133.240.100.2]) by radian.Nagoya.tcp-net.ad.jp (8.6.9+2.4W/3.3W7-TCP(radian)03/03/95) with ESMTP id KAA09993 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 10:38:09 +0900 Received: from popeye.vdlab.tytlabs.co.jp (popeye [133.240.210.45]) by tytcprm.tytlabs.co.jp (8.6.10+2.4W/3.3W8-04/14/95) with ESMTP id KAA24418 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 10:38:01 +0900 Received: by popeye.vdlab.tytlabs.co.jp (1.37.109.14/6.4J.6) id AA114365480; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 10:38:00 +0900 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 10:38:00 +0900 From: mizuno@popeye.vdlab.tytlabs.co.jp (MIZUNO Masahiko) Message-Id: <199504190138.AA114365480@popeye.vdlab.tytlabs.co.jp> To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Offset Horizon Reply-To: mizuno@vdlab.tytlabs.co.jp Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Status: O Hi, I try to make viewing volume not use pfChanFOV. On IRIX 5.2, I can make viewing volume use pfMakePerspFrust and pfChanNearFar. But on IRIX 5.3, I can not make this viewing volume. The scene using this volume is not offset horizon. Why? The sample program is as follows: chan = pfGetNewChan( pfGetPipe(0) ) ; pfMakePerspFrust( chan , -SCREEN_WIDTH * 0.5 , SCREEN_WIDTH * 0.5 , bottom , top ) ; pfChanNearFar( chan, dist , far ); : : ---------------------------------------------------------- MIZUNO Masahiko, Man-Machine System Lab. TOYOTA Central R&D Labs., Inc. Nagakute , Aichi , 480-11 JAPAN Tel:+81-561-62-6111(3736) Fax:+81-561-63-5743 E-mail address: mizuno@vdlab.tytlabs.co.jp From guest Tue Apr 18 20:25:31 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id UAA20951; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 20:22:35 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id UAA20948; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 20:22:34 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA03276; Tue, 18 Apr 95 20:22:33 -0700 Received: from warrane.connect.com.au by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id UAA11492; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 20:22:22 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by warrane.connect.com.au with UUCP id NAA09515 (8.6.11/IDA-1.6); Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:21:10 +1000 Received: from aggro (aggro_e) by zebedee.wormald.com.au with SMTP id AA05339 (5.65c/IDA-1.5); Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:09:11 +1000 Received: from krusty by aggro with SMTP id AA22381 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:10:09 +1000 Received: by krusty (5.65) id AA26482; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:10:09 +1000 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:10:08 +1000 (EST) From: Simon Bennett Subject: Re: pfLightPoint Color Binding? To: "`Bwana' Bob Buckley" Cc: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <9504181121.ZM1871@getreal.mss.ctaeng.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O On Tue, 18 Apr 1995, `Bwana' Bob Buckley wrote: > How can I determine the color binding of a pfLightPoint? Do you mean per vertex as opposed to overall? If so, I believe that under Performer 1.2 you cannot (except by perusing pfPrint output). I've asked this question on a number of occasions and never gotten any response. The 14.1f version of the Multigen flight loader will always use a per vertex colour binding. Contact multigen technical support if you need this (they are very helpful). Of course this only helps if you are using Multigen! The only other help I can give is that pfLightpoints are created with an overall colour binding, and remain with it until you change the colour of an *individual point* within the pfLightpoint. If you want to keep an overall colour binding then use pfLPointColor() with PFLP_OVERALL in the index parameter. The same with pfGetLPointColor(). (I don't think that PFLP_OVERALL is documented anywhere) Hope this helps. BTW - I've been led to believe that the entire pfLightpoint API is changing in Performer 2.0 - something about the pfLightpoint Node being scrapped. Instead you apply a pfLightPointState to a pfGeoSet.... +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Simon Bennett simonb@wormald.com.au Wormald Technology Advanced Systems Engineering Ph: +61 2 981 0611 (x512) Computer Terms: hardware - the part of a computer system that one can kick From guest Wed Apr 19 08:02:01 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id HAA29581; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 07:59:31 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id HAA29578; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 07:59:30 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA22968; Wed, 19 Apr 95 07:59:29 -0700 Received: from relay3.UU.NET by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id HAA29784; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 07:59:27 -0700 Received: from uucp2.UU.NET by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP id QQymdn24027; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 10:59:26 -0400 Received: from multigen.UUCP by uucp2.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 10:59:25 -0400 Received: from MAIL_CENTER (QM 3.0) by multigen.uucp (UMCP\QM 2.0.1) id AA00751; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 8:04:35 PST Message-Id: <00581.2881123475.751@multigen.uucp> Organization: MultiGen, Inc. X-Charset: MACINTOSH X-Umcp-To: INFO PERFORMER From: Marcus To: INFO PERFORMER Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 19:38:14 PST Subject: Re: detail textures Status: O Reply to: RE>detail textures >Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 17:51:15 -0400 (EDT) >From: "Lance R. Marrou" >To: Performer List >Subject: detail textures > >I have terrain (textured) with a detail texture. All of a sudden (it >seems like, I'm not sure what caused the change), one of my vehicle >models is also getting detailed by the ground texture when I move >close to the vehicle. What is causing this? The texture on the >ground is not the same as the one on the vehicle. Btw, I have >other models which do not get detailed. One possibility is a texture >parameter set from within MultiGen (the origin of the vehicle model), >but the terrain is generated directly from IRIS Performer primitives. What version of the OpenFlight loader are you using? In release R14.1c, one of the bugs I fixed involved cases where detail texture binding, when shared across files, was not being done. This would give a "currupted" texture visual like you describe. Please call MultiGen Product Support at (408) 261-4110 for a free update. The current release is R14.1f, which is a fair bit better than previous versions ... Regards, Marcus Barnes, Member Technical Staff MultiGen Inc., 1884 The Alameda, San Jose CA, 95126 PH: (408) 261 4118 FX: (408) 247 4329 EMAIL: multigen!marcus@uunet.UU.NET From guest Wed Apr 19 01:22:55 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id BAA25321; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 01:20:10 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id BAA25318; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 01:20:09 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA10953; Wed, 19 Apr 95 01:13:31 -0700 Received: from mcenroe.cs.unc.edu by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id BAA02447; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 01:13:22 -0700 Received: from monet.cs.unc.edu by mcenroe.cs.unc.edu (8.6.10/UNC_06_21_94) id EAA18668; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 04:13:21 -0400 From: David Luebke Received: by monet.cs.unc.edu (8.6.10/UNC_06_21_94) id EAA27109; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 04:13:19 -0400 Message-Id: <199504190813.EAA27109@monet.cs.unc.edu> Subject: postCull callbacks aren't being called To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com (Performer-help mailing list) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 04:13:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 3002 Status: O I'm implementing run-time cell-portal visibility in Performer. Here's the idea: the scene is divided into adjacent cells, which can only see each other through transparent portals that connect the cells. At the root of the scene is the pfGroup containing the viewer's cell. Under that cell are the portals of the cell, which I've implemented as pfGroups with pre- and post-callbacks attached. The precallback is called preCullPortal; it tests to see if the portal is visible; if so, the callback attaches the cell on the other side to the portal pfGroup with pfAddChild(), and returns PFTRAV_CONT. PostCullPortal() is responsible for removing the attached cell from the pfGroup that represents the portal. So here's my problem: after a nested series of prePortalCull() calls, postPortalCull() seems to be called only once, for the most recently visited portal node. As a result the cells attached to the rest of the portals never get removed, and those portals thereby inherit another child each frame. My question is, why might the traversal mechanism be skipping every postPortalCull after the first call? I've checked carefully and I'm quite sure that the correct callbacks are assigned to all the appropriate nodes. Any ideas? I know this probably isn't very clear. Here's the relevant portions of my code: typedef struct { int numverts; /* Number of verts in the portal */ pfGroup *attached_cell; /* cell on the 'other side' */ pfVec3 verts[MAXPORTALVERTS]; /* The actual vertices */ } pfPortalData; long enterPortalCull(pfTraverser *trav, void *data) { pfChannel *chan; /* pfChannel derives from pfFrustum */ pfGroup *node; pfPortalData *p = (pfPortalData *) data; if (!globalUsePortals) /* First, are portals enabled? */ { DEBUG(("\tPortals aren't enabled; pruning.\n")); return PFTRAV_PRUNE; } node = (pfGroup *) pfGetTravNode(trav); chan = pfGetTravChan(trav); /* Get the current view frustum */ if (chan == NULL) /* If this is an intersection, prune */ { return PFTRAV_PRUNE; } ... /* First test the normal of the portal to see if its backfacing */ ... /* Next test the portal to see if its visible */ ... if (it's not visible) return PFTRAV_PRUNE; /* It's visible, go ahead and traverse the other side */ pfAddChild(node, p->attached_cell); return PFTRAV_CONT; } long exitPortalCull(pfTraverser *trav, void *data) { pfPortalData *p = (pfPortalData *) data; pfChannel *chan; pfGroup *node; if (!globalUsePortals) /* First, are portals enabled? */ return PFTRAV_PRUNE; /* I think this is ignored */ chan = pfGetTravChan(trav); /* Get the current view frustum */ node = (pfGroup *) pfGetTravNode(trav); if (chan == NULL) /* If this is an intersection, prune */ return PFTRAV_PRUNE; /* I think this is ignored */ pfRemoveChild(node, p->attached_cell); return PFTRAV_CONT; /* I think this is ignored */ } From guest Wed Apr 19 00:52:00 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id AAA24979; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 00:48:59 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id AAA24976; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 00:48:58 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA10391; Wed, 19 Apr 95 00:48:57 -0700 Received: from relay.iunet.it by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id AAA00977; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 00:48:39 -0700 Received: from hpdtmt2.UUCP by relay.iunet.it with UUCP id AA11275 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4 for info-performer%sgi.com@iunet.it); Wed, 19 Apr 1995 09:52:53 +0200 Message-Id: <199504190752.AA11275@relay.iunet.it> Received: by hpdtmt2 (16.6/16.2) id AA12820; Wed, 19 Apr 95 09:36:42 +0200 From: Marco Crocetta Subject: Fog problems To: nacho@comarts.es Date: Wed, 19 Apr 95 9:36:41 METDST Cc: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] Status: O On Apr 18, 6:19pm, Nacho Sanz-Pastor Computer Arts + Developments VI wrote: > Subject: > > > > On : Tue, 18 Apr 95 17:29:55 ,Marco Crocetta wrote: > > > Is it possible to increase fog "resolution" without changing > >the Near/Far clip planes values? > > > Fog resolution is tied to z buffer res, and unless you are using a 24bit > zbuffer and can change it to 32 bit, you have found one of the hardest > to deal with limitations in the RE. > > Very small changes in the z buffer range can be a big difference, it is > worth trying. > > > Nacho Sanz-Pastor nacho@comarts.es > Computer Arts & Developments > Anita Vindel 10 bajo > 28023 Madrid Spain > tel ++ 34 1 357 27 51 fax ++ 34 1 307 03 39 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Computer Arts & Developments Visual Simulation Group > > An asteriod has crashed on Earth, and the Dinosaurs are close to being extinct > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >-- End of excerpt from Nacho Sanz-Pastor Computer Arts + Developments VI I just printout getgdesc(GD_BITS_NORM_ZBUFFER) on my onyx and I got 32. So have I some hope to solve my problem without changing the near clip plane value? Thanks for your help ---------------------------- Marco Crocetta DATAMAT SpA, Rome e-mail:onyx@datamat.it ---------------------------- -- ---------------------------- MARCO CROCETTA DATAMAT SpA, Rome e-mail: onyx@datamat.it ---------------------------- From guest Wed Apr 19 03:36:56 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id DAA26815; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 03:33:52 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id DAA26812; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 03:33:51 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA14723; Wed, 19 Apr 95 03:33:50 -0700 Received: from sunic.sunet.se by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id DAA09207; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 03:33:40 -0700 Received: from maria.ffa.se by sunic.sunet.se (8.6.8/2.03) id MAA17526; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 12:33:37 +0200 Received: by maria.ffa.se (931110.SGI/890607.SGI) (for info-performer@sgi.com) id AA21775; Wed, 19 Apr 95 12:36:13 +0200 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 95 12:36:13 +0200 From: jose@maria.ffa.se (Johan Saellstroem) Message-Id: <9504191036.AA21775@maria.ffa.se> To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: radar simulation Status: O HI We have a customer who needs to connect and Indy to a some sort of radar equipment. Old fashioned as they are they want to simulate the old kind of display. You know, phosphor that glows for a while and then drops in intensity. Would this be a job for performer or is there other tools more suitable for this ? We would be very grateful for any kind of hints in this direction. Best Regards Johan Sellstroem From guest Wed Apr 19 03:57:57 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id DAA27030; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 03:54:57 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id DAA27027; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 03:54:56 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA15251; Wed, 19 Apr 95 03:54:55 -0700 Received: from disperse.demon.co.uk by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id DAA10116; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 03:54:51 -0700 Received: from gate.demon.co.uk by disperse.demon.co.uk id ab02308; 19 Apr 95 11:54 GMT-60:00 Received: from division.demon.co.uk by gate.demon.co.uk id aa13474; 19 Apr 95 11:47 GMT-60:00 Received: from caliban.division.demon.co.uk by division.demon.co.uk (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA21753; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 11:55:25 +0100 Received: by caliban (931110.SGI/921111.SGI) for info-performer@sgi.com id AA12998; Wed, 19 Apr 95 11:55:24 +0100 From: Angus Dorbie Message-Id: <9504191155.ZM12996@caliban> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 11:55:24 +0100 In-Reply-To: David Luebke "postCull callbacks aren't being called" (Apr 19, 4:13am) References: <199504190813.EAA27109@monet.cs.unc.edu> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: David Luebke Subject: Re: postCull callbacks aren't being called Cc: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: O > So here's my problem: after a nested series of prePortalCull() calls, > postPortalCull() seems to be called only once, for the most recently > visited portal node. As a result the cells attached to the rest of the > portals never get removed, and those portals thereby inherit another > child each frame. My question is, why might the traversal mechanism > be skipping every postPortalCull after the first call? Your post cull callback will only be called if the node in question passes the performer cull test, in other words your nodes are probably not in the viewing frustum (or are rejected for some other reason) and so only the pre cull callback is invoked. Regards, -- Angus Dorbie Division Ltd, Software Engineer 19 Apex Court, Tel: (01454)615554 Woodlands, Fax: (01454)615532 Bristol BS12 4JT, angus@division.demon.co.uk UK From guest Wed Apr 19 03:59:54 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id DAA27058; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 03:56:53 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id DAA27055; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 03:56:53 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA15283; Wed, 19 Apr 95 03:56:52 -0700 Received: from goya.eunet.es by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id DAA10150; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 03:56:10 -0700 Received: (uucp@localhost) by goya.eunet.es (8.6.10/13.07) id MAA26148 for info-performer@sgi.com; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 12:11:37 +0200 Received: by INDY3.comarts.es (920330.SGI/5.3) id AA07461 for info-performer@sgi.com; Wed, 19 Apr 95 11:05:59 GMT Date: Wed, 19 Apr 95 11:05:59 GMT From: "Nacho Sanz-Pastor Computer Arts + Developments VISSIM Div." Message-Id: <9504191105.AA07461@INDY3.comarts.es> To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Status: O Marco Crocetta wrote, >I just printout getgdesc(GD_BITS_NORM_ZBUFFER) on my onyx and >I got 32. >So have I some hope to solve my problem without changing the near clip plane >value? Unfortunately, I am afraid you won't. You are already using all the zbuffer res you can possibly get. What I meant before is that a really small change in the near clip value could be very helpful, if you need it to be .5 maybe going for .6 would be a very good improvement. Unless you can think of a method to split the scene in two halves, and paint in two passes, each with a different half of the near/clip range and corresponding fog range, the only thing you ( and most of us ) can do is test all the possible combinations of near/far, fog range and fog type, and see what works best. We got best result from PIX_LIN and EXP2 fogs, but depends on your needs. Don't tell anyone, but let's say that the fog implementation is probably not the best part of the RE microcode.Wait for seeing the fog at work on a 3pipe ... ;-) Nacho Sanz-Pastor nacho@comarts.es Computer Arts & Developments Anita Vindel 10 bajo 28023 Madrid Spain tel ++ 34 1 357 27 51 fax ++ 34 1 307 03 39 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Computer Arts & Developments Visual Simulation Group An asteriod has crashed on Earth, and the Dinosaurs are close to being extinct ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From guest Wed Apr 19 04:22:14 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id EAA27295; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 04:18:07 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id EAA27291; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 04:18:07 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA16028; Wed, 19 Apr 95 04:18:06 -0700 Received: from disperse.demon.co.uk by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id EAA12920; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 04:18:02 -0700 Received: from gate.demon.co.uk by disperse.demon.co.uk id aa03756; 19 Apr 95 12:14 GMT-60:00 Received: from division.demon.co.uk by gate.demon.co.uk id aa14014; 19 Apr 95 12:08 GMT-60:00 Received: from caliban.division.demon.co.uk by division.demon.co.uk (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA31335; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 12:17:03 +0100 Received: by caliban (931110.SGI/921111.SGI) for info-performer@sgi.com id AA13046; Wed, 19 Apr 95 12:17:03 +0100 From: Angus Dorbie Message-Id: <9504191217.ZM13044@caliban> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 12:17:02 +0100 In-Reply-To: Johan Saellstroem "radar simulation" (Apr 19, 12:36pm) References: <9504191036.AA21775@maria.ffa.se> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: Johan Saellstroem Subject: Re: radar simulation Cc: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: O > We have a customer who needs to connect and Indy to a some sort of > radar equipment. Old fashioned as they are they want to simulate > the old kind of display. You know, phosphor that glows for a while > and then drops in intensity. Would this be a job for performer > or is there other tools more suitable for this ? > We would be very grateful for any kind of hints in this direction. My view is that performer doesn't have a lot to offer this kind of application. I'd try GL (orthographic projection) with asynchronous updates to fading objects on the radar display with a complete redraw only along the sweep line. This would avoid clearing the framebuffer (probably your biggest overhead in this type of application) and drawing the whole scene every frame and it could still be double buffered if required. Regards, -- Angus Dorbie Division Ltd, Software Engineer 19 Apex Court, Tel: (01454)615554 Woodlands, Fax: (01454)615532 Bristol BS12 4JT, angus@division.demon.co.uk UK From guest Wed Apr 19 04:54:05 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id EAA27686; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 04:51:44 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id EAA27683; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 04:51:43 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA17119; Wed, 19 Apr 95 04:51:27 -0700 Received: from Starbase.NeoSoft.COM by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id EAA14679; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 04:51:25 -0700 Received: (from dweller@localhost) by Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (8.6.10/8.6.10) id GAA11227; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 06:50:05 -0500 From: David Weller Message-Id: <199504191150.GAA11227@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> X-Provider: NeoSoft, Inc.: Internet Service Provider (713) 684-5969 Subject: Re: radar simulation To: angus@division.demon.co.uk (Angus Dorbie) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 06:50:04 -0500 (CDT) Cc: jose@maria.ffa.se, info-performer@sgi.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <9504191217.ZM13044@caliban> from "Angus Dorbie" at Apr 19, 95 12:17:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 124 Status: O Wouldn't Designer WOrkbench (from Coryphaeus) be better for this kind of app? The specialize in instrumentation displays. From guest Wed Apr 19 06:34:45 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id GAA28723; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 06:32:15 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id GAA28720; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 06:32:15 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA19776; Wed, 19 Apr 95 06:32:14 -0700 Received: from disperse.demon.co.uk by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id GAA21468; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 06:32:11 -0700 Received: from gate.demon.co.uk by disperse.demon.co.uk id ad13324; 19 Apr 95 14:28 GMT-60:00 Received: from division.demon.co.uk by gate.demon.co.uk id aa16681; 19 Apr 95 14:20 GMT-60:00 Received: from caliban.division.demon.co.uk by division.demon.co.uk (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA10260; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 14:24:06 +0100 Received: by caliban (931110.SGI/921111.SGI) for info-performer@sgi.com id AA13373; Wed, 19 Apr 95 14:24:05 +0100 From: Angus Dorbie Message-Id: <9504191424.ZM13371@caliban> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 14:24:05 +0100 In-Reply-To: David Weller "Re: radar simulation" (Apr 19, 6:50am) References: <199504191150.GAA11227@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: David Weller Subject: Re: radar simulation Cc: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: O > Wouldn't Designer WOrkbench (from Coryphaeus) be better for this kind > of app? The specialize in instrumentation displays. I suppose it depends on what you want to do with your radar, if this is a once off radar sim with a few blips moving around and fading then the GL code is trivial. If you want a bells and whistles instrumentation system thats easily configurable then perhaps you've answered your own question. -- Angus Dorbie Division Ltd, Software Engineer 19 Apex Court, Tel: (01454)615554 Woodlands, Fax: (01454)615532 Bristol BS12 4JT, angus@division.demon.co.uk UK From guest Wed Apr 19 08:01:53 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id HAA29576; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 07:59:19 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id HAA29573; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 07:59:18 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA22960; Wed, 19 Apr 95 07:59:17 -0700 Received: from sgihub.corp.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id HAA29763; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 07:59:16 -0700 Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by sgihub.corp.sgi.com via SMTP (940519.SGI.8.6.9/911001.SGI) for id HAA12369; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 07:59:11 -0700 Received: from babar.asd.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@sgi.sgi.com id AA22945; Wed, 19 Apr 95 07:59:04 -0700 Received: by babar.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer@sgi.sgi.com id HAA25758; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 07:59:03 -0700 From: "Michael Jones" Message-Id: <9504190759.ZM25756@babar.asd.sgi.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 07:59:01 -0700 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Fog Observations. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O Angus sent this to me, but asked me to forward it to info-performer. --- Forwarded mail from "Angus Henderson" From: "Angus Henderson" Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 09:06:48 +0100 To: "Michael Jones" > : > : Very small changes in the z buffer range can be a big difference, it is > :worth trying. > > I'll just add that changes to the near-clip distance are much more > important than changes in the far clip distance. > I'l just add that if you are going to get anywhere with fog on a "deep" scene you have to have active near/far planes and often active fog parameters as well. When you are close to the ground you need a "near" near-plane but you can't see far (hopefully) so you can have a near far-plane as well. When you are up high you can push the near plane out to give you lots of relsolution for distant fog on the horizon. If you want to get close to an object high up in the scene you have a problem.... Then you need to draw the object with different nea far planes to the rest of the world. If this object is an aircraft and it flies off into the haze you have even more problems because it won't fog the same as the world. You can fix that by playing tunes on fog values although if someone who knows about fog microcode could suggest how performer could handle all this for us mortals that would be nice. ...here's one I can't solve... I fire a missile from my ownship and it leaves a contrail from the near plane to a (fogged) explosion tens of kilometers away. I remember on old fashioned IRIS 3000's you could set the near-plane clipping to 0.0 I'd like that so my contrails never ever clipped nearby as that makes them look crap. fog eh... clipping eh ? ANGUs ---End of forwarded mail from "Angus Henderson" -- Be seeing you, Phone:415.390.1455 Fax:415.965.2658 M/S:8U-590 Michael T. Jones Silicon Graphics, Advanced Graphics Division mtj@sgi.com 2011 N. Shoreline Blvd., Mtn. View, CA 94039-7311 From guest Wed Apr 19 08:21:36 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id IAA29774; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 08:18:24 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id IAA29771; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 08:18:23 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA23846; Wed, 19 Apr 95 08:18:22 -0700 Received: from atc.boeing.com by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id IAA01992; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 08:18:20 -0700 Received: by atc.boeing.com (5.57) id AA22837; Wed, 19 Apr 95 08:23:15 -0700 Received: from aw503.iasl.ca.boeing.com by aw101.iasl.ca.boeing.com with SMTP id AA18813 (5.67a/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 19 Apr 1995 08:18:06 -0700 From: "David H. Whittington" Received: by aw503.info-performer@sgi.com (5.65c/client-1.3) id AA08429; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 08:18:03 -0700 Message-Id: <199504191518.AA08429@aw503.info-performer@sgi.com> Subject: Available airliner models To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 08:18:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL20] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 625 Status: O Does anyone know of available Performer(obj,flt,dxf,etc.) models for most commercial airliners? Someone has mentioned a company that provides reasonably priced models, I think the company name is ViewPoint? If anyone knows of the company address, I would appreciate it. Also, does anyone know of the availability of nonU.S. digital terrain data. I have the CDs for the US from Rocky Mountain Communications in Colo. but do not know how to get overseas(from the US perspective)data. Thanks for any help. Dave Whittington Boeing Commercial Airplane Group Flight Systems Lab (206)662-4610 dhw3314@aw101.iasl.ca.boeing.com From guest Wed Apr 19 09:02:23 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id IAA00266; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 08:59:21 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id IAA00263; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 08:59:20 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA26155; Wed, 19 Apr 95 08:59:19 -0700 Received: from ivan.engr.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) id IAA08265; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 08:59:14 -0700 Received: by ivan.engr.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/911001.SGI) id IAA05498; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 08:59:13 -0700 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 08:59:13 -0700 From: ib@ivan.engr.sgi.com (Ivan Bach) Message-Id: <199504191559.IAA05498@ivan.engr.sgi.com> To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com, "David H. Whittington" Subject: Re: Available airliner models Status: O "David H. Whittington" writes: > I think the company name is ViewPoint? If anyone knows of the company > address, I would appreciate it. Viewpoint 870 West Center, Orem, UT 84057 Call for a free 100-page catalog: 1-800-DATASET (328-2738) Tel. 801 224-2222, Fax 801 224-2272 Ivan Bach, ib@sgi.com From guest Wed Apr 19 09:12:46 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id JAA00464; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 09:09:36 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id JAA00461; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 09:09:36 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA27021; Wed, 19 Apr 95 09:09:35 -0700 Received: from sgihub.corp.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) id JAA09808; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 09:09:31 -0700 Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by sgihub.corp.sgi.com via SMTP (940519.SGI.8.6.9/911001.SGI) id JAA22354; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 09:09:30 -0700 Received: from babar.asd.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for @sgihub.corp.sgi.com:dhw3314@aw101.iasl.ca.boeing.com id AA27014; Wed, 19 Apr 95 09:09:29 -0700 Received: by babar.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id JAA27112; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 09:09:28 -0700 From: "Michael Jones" Message-Id: <9504190909.ZM27110@babar.asd.sgi.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 09:09:27 -0700 In-Reply-To: "David H. Whittington" "Available airliner models" (Apr 19, 8:18am) References: <199504191518.AA08429@aw503.info-performer@sgi.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: "David H. Whittington" , info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Re: Available airliner models Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O On Apr 19, 8:18am, David H. Whittington wrote: > Subject: Available airliner models : Does anyone know of available Performer(obj,flt,dxf,etc.) models :for most commercial airliners? Someone has mentioned a company that :provides reasonably priced models, I think the company name is ViewPoint? :If anyone knows of the company address, I would appreciate it. Here's the info... Viewpoint DataLabs Int'l 625 South State Street Orem, Utah 84058 orders: 1.800.DATASET (1.800.328.2738) phone: 1.801.229.3000 fax: 1.801.229.3300 -- Be seeing you, Phone:415.390.1455 Fax:415.965.2658 M/S:8U-590 Michael T. Jones Silicon Graphics, Advanced Graphics Division mtj@sgi.com 2011 N. Shoreline Blvd., Mtn. View, CA 94039-7311 From guest Wed Apr 19 09:17:21 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id JAA00524; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 09:14:07 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id JAA00521; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 09:14:06 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA27277; Wed, 19 Apr 95 09:14:05 -0700 Received: from meg.saic.com by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id JAA10647; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 09:14:03 -0700 Received: by meg.saic.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01240; Wed, 19 Apr 95 09:20:47 PDT Date: Wed, 19 Apr 95 09:20:47 PDT From: mccoll@meg.saic.com (David McColl) Message-Id: <9504191620.AA01240@meg.saic.com> To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: unsubscribe Status: O unsubscribe mccoll@meg.saic.com From guest Wed Apr 19 09:41:00 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id JAA00841; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 09:38:28 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id JAA00838; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 09:38:28 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA28688; Wed, 19 Apr 95 09:38:27 -0700 Received: from sgihub.corp.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id JAA14058; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 09:38:24 -0700 Received: from hawkeye.newport.sgi.com by sgihub.corp.sgi.com via ESMTP (940519.SGI.8.6.9/911001.SGI) for id JAA26978; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 09:38:22 -0700 Received: by hawkeye.newport.sgi.com (950215.SGI.8.6.10/911001.SGI) id JAA05381; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 09:38:13 -0700 From: millard@hawkeye.newport.sgi.com (Ed Millard) Message-Id: <199504191638.JAA05381@hawkeye.newport.sgi.com> Subject: Re: Available airliner models To: dhw3314@aw101.iasl.ca.boeing.com (David H. Whittington) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 09:38:12 -0800 (PDT) Cc: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199504191518.AA08429@aw503.info-performer@sgi.com> from "David H. Whittington" at Apr 19, 95 08:18:02 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1665 Status: O > > > Does anyone know of available Performer(obj,flt,dxf,etc.) models > for most commercial airliners? Someone has mentioned a company that > provides reasonably priced models, I think the company name is ViewPoint? > If anyone knows of the company address, I would appreciate it. Also, > does anyone know of the availability of nonU.S. digital terrain data. > I have the CDs for the US from Rocky Mountain Communications in Colo. > but do not know how to get overseas(from the US perspective)data. Thanks > for any help. > > You can browse through: file://avalon.chinalake.navy.mil/pub/objects/ This is one of the larger public domain archives of 3D objects around. With a quick scan I saw a 747 in obj format and a DC-10 in 3D studio. These are contributions from all over so the quality levels vary. The Defense Mapping Agency has DTED data for much of the Northern Hemisphere. I have a 5-6 page Postscript file put out by the Army describing DMA and USGS sources for digitial elevation data if your interested. It lists some contacts for info on DMA as: Jeff Messmore (202) 355-2759 Rob Lambert (202) 355-2764 U.S. Army Engineer Topographics Laboratories CEETL-TL-CR Fort Belvoir, Virginia 22060-5546 Not sure how current the doc is so those contact may or may not work. ============================================================================= Ed Millard | 18201 Von Karman Avenue Silicon Graphics Inc. | Suite 100 Developer's Support Group | Irvine, CA 92715 millard@sgi.com | (714) 756-5975 ============================================================================= From guest Wed Apr 19 10:56:42 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id KAA01707; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 10:53:37 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id KAA01704; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 10:53:35 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA03468; Wed, 19 Apr 95 10:53:33 -0700 Received: from vsl.ist.ucf.edu by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id KAA00600; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 10:53:31 -0700 Received: from crusader.vsl.ist.ucf.edu by vsl.ist.ucf.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27568; Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:55:14 EDT Received: by crusader.vsl.ist.ucf.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9) id NAA02471; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:53:51 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:53:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "Lance R. Marrou" To: Marc SIMON Presales support Cc: info-performer@giraffe Subject: Re: pfFind : Ambiguous pathname In-Reply-To: <9504191827.ZM25212@girl.paris.sgi.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O On Wed, 19 Apr 1995, Marc SIMON Presales support wrote: > Is there a way to manage several nodes with exactly the same name > (multiple load of the same object) with the "pfFind*" features. > > It seems thst when multiple we have multiple identical nodes in the same > scene " pfFind*" always return that there is a ambiguous pathname . > > Is there a way to avoid this ??? > > Perhaps in 2.0 ??? You need to specify the path for the node. Of course, if you have randomly placed nodes in no particular path, then you have a problem (but one you created yourself). One use I have is to find DCSes in a model based upon the DCS node name as such: if (!dcs) return; char path[100]; char name[100]; strcpy(path, "/"); strcat(path, pfGetNodeName(dcs)); strcat(path, "/"); strcpy(name,path); b1 = pfFindDCS(strcat(name, "Bar1")); if (!b1) notify(NOTIFY_WARN,"Could not find b1 (Bar1) DCS for the breacher\n"); strcpy(name,path); b2 = pfFindDCS(strcat(name, "Bar2")); if (!b2) notify(NOTIFY_WARN,"Could not find b2 (Bar2) DCS for the breacher\n"); ... Note that "dcs" MUST have a unique name. For this, I keep a static variable which increments every time I load (actually, clone) a new model. All the cloned geometry keeps the names. ______________________________________________________________________________ /\ ______ /\____ ______ ______ E-mail: marrou@vsl.ist.ucf.edu Visual / / / _ / / __ // ____// ____/ VSL: (407)658-5073 Systems / /__ / /_/ / / / / // /___ / __/_ R. 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From guest Wed Apr 19 10:45:38 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id KAA01568; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 10:41:22 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id KAA01565; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 10:41:20 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA02738; Wed, 19 Apr 95 10:41:19 -0700 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id KAA27817; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 10:40:39 -0700 Received: from uucp1.unix.portal.com (uucp1.unix.portal.com [156.151.1.100]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA19868; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 10:39:58 -0700 Received: from cory.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by uucp1.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with UUCP id KAA14144; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 10:34:38 -0700 Received: by cory (920330.SGI/911001.SGI) for portal!sgi.com!info-performer id AA13856; Wed, 19 Apr 95 10:32:46 -0700 From: jc@cory.coryphaeus.com (Jayne Capelin) Message-Id: <9504191732.AA13856@cory> Subject: Re: Available airliner models To: dhw3314@aw101.iasl.ca.boeing.com (David H. Whittington) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 10:32:46 -0800 (PDT) Cc: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199504191518.AA08429@aw503.info-performer@sgi.com> from "David H. Whittington" at Apr 19, 95 08:18:02 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1895 Status: O > > > Does anyone know of available Performer(obj,flt,dxf,etc.) models > for most commercial airliners? Someone has mentioned a company that > provides reasonably priced models, I think the company name is ViewPoint? > If anyone knows of the company address, I would appreciate it. Also, > does anyone know of the availability of nonU.S. digital terrain data. > I have the CDs for the US from Rocky Mountain Communications in Colo. > but do not know how to get overseas(from the US perspective)data. Thanks > for any help. > > > Dave Whittington > Boeing Commercial Airplane Group > Flight Systems Lab > (206)662-4610 > dhw3314@aw101.iasl.ca.boeing.com > > > It seems you already have plenty of offers for the address of Viewpoint, so I won't reiterate that, however, I have a few numbers you could try to get non U.S. digital terrain data. We use these to access the data we require to 1 800 USA MAPS will get you through to USGS who can provide some non US data which is available through ftp sites. This is free for the low resolution data (100m post spacing), but as I understand it, they only provide certain areas of the world so it may be that you are looking for an area they don't have. In which case, try: 1 800 ASK SPOT which is the number for Spot Image. They can provide almost anything you require ...... at a cost!!! Their panchromatic data is 10m resolution and the multispectral is 20m. At Coryphaeus we would normally use DMA data for our terrain generator, EasyT when it is available to us (the data and resolution is not always publicly available) and we also use USGS DEM data which we are able to obtain through an ftp site at 100m post spacing. I hope this helps - if you have any more questions about how we obtain our terrain data please contact me directly. From guest Wed Apr 19 13:39:17 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id NAA03310; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:36:37 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id NAA03307; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:36:37 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA12559; Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:36:36 -0700 Received: from sgihub.corp.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id NAA02922; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:36:31 -0700 Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by sgihub.corp.sgi.com via SMTP (940519.SGI.8.6.9/911001.SGI) for id NAA08018; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:36:29 -0700 Received: from tubes.asd.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@sgi.sgi.com id AA12553; Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:36:27 -0700 Received: by tubes.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id NAA23637; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:34:10 -0700 From: jrohlf@tubes (John Rohlf) Message-Id: <199504192034.NAA23637@tubes.asd.sgi.com> Subject: Re: postCull callbacks aren't being called To: guest (David Luebke) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:34:10 PDT Cc: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199504190813.EAA27109@monet.cs.unc.edu>; from "David Luebke" at Apr 19, 95 4:13 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL8] Status: O > > I'm implementing run-time cell-portal visibility in Performer. Here's the > idea: the scene is divided into adjacent cells, which can only see each > other through transparent portals that connect the cells. At the root of the > scene is the pfGroup containing the viewer's cell. Under that cell are > the portals of the cell, which I've implemented as pfGroups with pre- > and post-callbacks attached. The precallback is called preCullPortal; > it tests to see if the portal is visible; if so, the callback attaches > the cell on the other side to the portal pfGroup with pfAddChild(), and > returns PFTRAV_CONT. PostCullPortal() is responsible for removing the > attached cell from the pfGroup that represents the portal. > > So here's my problem: after a nested series of prePortalCull() calls, > postPortalCull() seems to be called only once, for the most recently > visited portal node. As a result the cells attached to the rest of the > portals never get removed, and those portals thereby inherit another > child each frame. My question is, why might the traversal mechanism > be skipping every postPortalCull after the first call? I've checked > carefully and I'm quite sure that the correct callbacks are assigned > to all the appropriate nodes. Any ideas? > > I know this probably isn't very clear. Here's the relevant portions of > my code: > > typedef struct > { > int numverts; /* Number of verts in the portal */ > pfGroup *attached_cell; /* cell on the 'other side' */ > pfVec3 verts[MAXPORTALVERTS]; /* The actual vertices */ > } pfPortalData; > > long > enterPortalCull(pfTraverser *trav, void *data) > { > pfChannel *chan; /* pfChannel derives from pfFrustum */ > pfGroup *node; > pfPortalData *p = (pfPortalData *) data; > > if (!globalUsePortals) /* First, are portals enabled? */ > { > DEBUG(("\tPortals aren't enabled; pruning.\n")); > return PFTRAV_PRUNE; > } > node = (pfGroup *) pfGetTravNode(trav); > > chan = pfGetTravChan(trav); /* Get the current view frustum */ > if (chan == NULL) /* If this is an intersection, prune */ > { > return PFTRAV_PRUNE; > } > ... > /* First test the normal of the portal to see if its backfacing */ > ... > /* Next test the portal to see if its visible */ > ... > if (it's not visible) > return PFTRAV_PRUNE; > > /* It's visible, go ahead and traverse the other side */ > pfAddChild(node, p->attached_cell); > return PFTRAV_CONT; > } > > long > exitPortalCull(pfTraverser *trav, void *data) > { > pfPortalData *p = (pfPortalData *) data; > pfChannel *chan; > pfGroup *node; > > if (!globalUsePortals) /* First, are portals enabled? */ > return PFTRAV_PRUNE; /* I think this is ignored */ > > chan = pfGetTravChan(trav); /* Get the current view frustum */ > node = (pfGroup *) pfGetTravNode(trav); > > if (chan == NULL) /* If this is an intersection, prune */ > return PFTRAV_PRUNE; /* I think this is ignored */ > > pfRemoveChild(node, p->attached_cell); > return PFTRAV_CONT; /* I think this is ignored */ > } > > You have found a bug in the traversal logic. pfGetTravNode(trav) returns the last child of the group to postCull() rather than the group itself (preCull() is OK). You could use node = pfGetChild(pfGetParent(pfGetTravNode(trav), 0), 0) if you know that the portal group is always the first child. However, I suggest you try a different approach which does not modify the scene graph during traversal. The culling traversal does not understand all topological changes to the scene graph during the traversal. We could make it a little more aware but in general changing the scene graph during a traversal is a bit risky as well as hard to define, e.g.: pfGroup::cull() { for (i=0; icull(); } What should happen if child 0 removes itself from the graph in its preCull callback? The act of removing child 0 shifts children 1 through n-1 to the left by one. Then i++ will increment i to 1 so that the new child 0, which used to be child 1, will be skipped and will not be culled. Why not attach the callbacks to attached_cell? Then you can call pfCullResult(PFIS_FALSE) or pfCullResult(PFIS_MAYBE | PFIS_TRUE) in the preCull callback if the cell is not visible or visible respectively. pfCullResult is the intended mechanism for your kind of culling. Note that PFTRAV_PRUNE is indeed ignored in the postCull() since you've already traversed the group's children. If you want to aggressively terminate traversal, return PFTRAV_TERM but use this with caution. From guest Wed Apr 19 13:44:18 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id NAA03372; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:41:41 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id NAA03369; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:41:41 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA12795; Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:41:40 -0700 Received: from sgihub.corp.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) id NAA03982; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:41:38 -0700 Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by sgihub.corp.sgi.com via SMTP (940519.SGI.8.6.9/911001.SGI) id NAA08650; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:41:37 -0700 Received: from tubes.asd.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for @sgihub.corp.sgi.com:luebke@cs.unc.edu id AA12790; Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:41:35 -0700 Received: by tubes.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id NAA23650; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:39:17 -0700 From: jrohlf@tubes (John Rohlf) Message-Id: <199504192039.NAA23650@tubes.asd.sgi.com> Subject: Re: postCull callbacks aren't being called To: guest (Angus Dorbie) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:39:17 PDT Cc: luebke@cs.unc.edu, info-performer@sgi.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <9504191155.ZM12996@caliban>; from "Angus Dorbie" at Apr 19, 95 11:55 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL8] Status: O > > > So here's my problem: after a nested series of prePortalCull() calls, > > postPortalCull() seems to be called only once, for the most recently > > visited portal node. As a result the cells attached to the rest of the > > portals never get removed, and those portals thereby inherit another > > child each frame. My question is, why might the traversal mechanism > > be skipping every postPortalCull after the first call? > > Your post cull callback will only be called if the node in question > passes the performer cull test, in other words your nodes are probably > not in the viewing frustum (or are rejected for some other reason) and > so only the pre cull callback is invoked. > Unless we have a bug, the post cull callback is always invoked unless the pre cull callback prunes the traversal. From guest Wed Apr 19 09:30:34 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id JAA00679; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 09:27:54 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id JAA00676; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 09:27:53 -0700 Received: from girl.paris.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA28093; Wed, 19 Apr 95 09:27:52 -0700 Received: by girl.paris.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/911001.SGI) for info-performer@giraffe.asd.sgi.com id SAA25214; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 18:27:48 +0200 From: "Marc SIMON Presales support" Message-Id: <9504191827.ZM25212@girl.paris.sgi.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 18:27:47 -0600 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: info-performer@giraffe Subject: pfFind : Ambiguous pathname Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O Is there a way to manage several nodes with exactly the same name (multiple load of the same object) with the "pfFind*" features. It seems thst when multiple we have multiple identical nodes in the same scene " pfFind*" always return that there is a ambiguous pathname . Is there a way to avoid this ??? Perhaps in 2.0 ??? Thanks, -- -- Marc -- Marc SIMON Presales support =========================== --------- ////// // // ////// /////// /////// ----------- // // / / // // // / / // --------- ///// // / // ///////// /////// // ----------- // // // // // /// // --------- /////// // // // // / /// /////// ---------- Silicon Graphics France 21 Rue Albert Calmette Jouy-en-Josas 78350 FRANCE Tel (33) 1 34-88-80-00 email : smarc@paris.sgi.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ smarc@paris.sgi.com **************************** From guest Wed Apr 19 17:57:36 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id RAA06509; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 17:52:20 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id RAA06506; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 17:52:19 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA05945; Wed, 19 Apr 95 17:52:15 -0700 Received: from cs.nps.navy.mil by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id RAA24791; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 17:52:13 -0700 Received: from medusa.cs.nps.navy.mil ([131.120.7.32]) by cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27701; Wed, 19 Apr 95 17:51:09 PDT Received: by medusa.cs.nps.navy.mil (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id RAA28137; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 17:51:04 -0700 From: "david pratt" Message-Id: <9504191751.ZM28135@medusa.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 17:51:04 -0700 In-Reply-To: jrohlf@tubes.asd.sgi.com (John Rohlf) "Re: postCull callbacks aren't being called" (Apr 19, 1:34pm) References: <199504192034.NAA23637@tubes.asd.sgi.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: banchero@lambert.tec.army.mil Subject: Change of color in Perfly Cc: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="PART-BOUNDARY=.19504191751.ZM28135.cs.nps.navy.mil" Status: O -- --PART-BOUNDARY=.19504191751.ZM28135.cs.nps.navy.mil Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Evening, I have a model that looks fine in Multigen, nice purple color. When I load it in Performer, even in Perfly, it appears to be flat black. It is a ver14 model and the loader is the ver14 loader. Any ideas? I am at a complete lost. Here is part of the model. 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When I load :it in Performer, even in Perfly, it appears to be flat black. It is a ver14 :model and the loader is the ver14 loader. Any ideas? I am at a complete lost. :Here is part of the model. As is, the legs are all black (but the feet are OK). I inserted a color (olive-drab) on the "purple" legs and then it looks fine. Perhaps purple is the MG "no color defined" color. (Or, it may just be that soldiers were not meant to wear pink ;-) Michael. -- Be seeing you, Phone:415.390.1455 Fax:415.965.2658 M/S:8U-590 Michael T. Jones Silicon Graphics, Advanced Graphics Division mtj@sgi.com 2011 N. Shoreline Blvd., Mtn. View, CA 94039-7311 From guest Wed Apr 19 19:04:20 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id TAA07107; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 19:01:32 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id TAA07104; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 19:01:31 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA08809; Wed, 19 Apr 95 19:01:30 -0700 Received: from sun.aitc.rest.tasc.com by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id TAA03835; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 19:01:23 -0700 Received: from spectre by sun.aitc.rest.tasc.com (NX5.67d/NX3.0M-TASCnet-003) id AA19076; Wed, 19 Apr 95 21:01:14 -0500 Received: by spectre.aitc.rest.tasc.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) for info-performer@sgi.com id WAA28202; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 22:01:17 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 22:01:17 -0400 From: thom@spectre.aitc.rest.tasc.com (Thom DeCarlo) Message-Id: <199504200201.WAA28202@spectre.aitc.rest.tasc.com> To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Re: Available airliner models Status: O >>The Defense Mapping Agency has DTED data for much of the Northern Hemisphere. >>I have a 5-6 page Postscript file put out by the Army describing DMA and >>USGS sources for digitial elevation data if your interested. It lists >>some contacts for info on DMA as: >> >> Jeff Messmore (202) 355-2759 >> Rob Lambert (202) 355-2764 >> U.S. Army Engineer Topographics Laboratories >> CEETL-TL-CR >> Fort Belvoir, Virginia 22060-5546 Those area codes should be 703. thom ,,, (o o) ++---------------------------------------++-------oOO--(_)--OOo-------------++ || Thom DeCarlo || || || TASC || Any sufficiently || || 12100 Sunset Hills Rd. || advanced technology || || Reston, VA 22090 || is indistinguishable || || phone:703/834-5000 fax:703/318-7900 || from a rigged demo. || || email:trdecarlo@tasc.com || || ++---------------------------------------++---------------------------------++ From guest Wed Apr 19 21:45:26 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id VAA07360; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:42:49 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id VAA07357; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:42:48 -0700 Received: from sgihub.corp.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA12922; Wed, 19 Apr 95 21:42:47 -0700 Received: from clubted.csd.sgi.com by sgihub.corp.sgi.com via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/911001.SGI) for id VAA10035; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:42:46 -0700 Received: by clubted.csd.sgi.com (931110.SGI/911001.SGI) for info-performer@sgi.com id AA00254; Wed, 19 Apr 95 21:42:45 -0700 From: "Cami Crofton" Message-Id: <9504192142.ZM252@clubted.csd.sgi.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:42:44 -0700 X-Mailer: Z-Mail-SGI (3.0S.1026 26oct93 MediaMail) To: info-performer@sgihub.corp.sgi.com Subject: Performer CBT!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: O Are you new to Performer? Wish you had a great self-paced Computer-Based Training (CBT) course to help you along? That's what I want to develop! I'm Cami Crofton from the Education Design and Technology department at Silicon Graphics. I'm currently looking into the need for such a course and would like to talk with new users of Performer. If you have been using Performer for less than one year, then you are in my target audience! By talking with you and finding out your stumbling blocks, I will be able to incorporate into the course the topics and objectives that are of most concern to you. If you are interested in being interviewed, please send email to ccrofton@csd.sgi.com TODAY! Thank You. -- ---------------------------------------- Cami Crofton, Worldwide Education R & D Silicon Graphics Computer Systems Internet: ccrofton@csd.sgi.com Phone: 415-390-3541 Fax: 415-390-6267 From guest Thu Apr 20 03:40:26 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id DAA07775; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 03:38:11 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id DAA07772; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 03:38:10 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA18440; Thu, 20 Apr 95 03:38:09 -0700 Received: from disperse.demon.co.uk by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id DAA14907; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 03:38:07 -0700 Received: from gate.demon.co.uk by disperse.demon.co.uk id ad25799; 20 Apr 95 11:21 GMT-60:00 Received: from division.demon.co.uk by gate.demon.co.uk id aa13989; 20 Apr 95 11:20 GMT-60:00 Received: from caliban.division.demon.co.uk by division.demon.co.uk (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA32747; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:20:31 +0100 Received: by caliban (931110.SGI/921111.SGI) for info-performer@sgi.com id AA14749; Thu, 20 Apr 95 11:20:31 +0100 From: Angus Dorbie Message-Id: <9504201120.ZM14747@caliban> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:20:31 +0100 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Re: postCull callbacks aren't being called Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: O Previously I posted: > Your post cull callback will only be called if the node in question > passes the performer cull test, in other words your nodes are probably > not in the viewing frustum (or are rejected for some other reason) and > so only the pre cull callback is invoked. As John pointed out this posting was wrong, I'll only add that I haven't foung a bug. I forgot I was disabling my post cull with a test on pfGetCullResult(), sorry for any confusion. -- Angus Dorbie Division Ltd, Software Engineer 19 Apex Court, Tel: (01454)615554 Woodlands, Fax: (01454)615532 Bristol BS12 4JT, angus@division.demon.co.uk UK From guest Thu Apr 20 02:02:28 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id BAA07653; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 01:58:40 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id BAA07650; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 01:58:39 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA17035; Thu, 20 Apr 95 01:58:38 -0700 Received: from bvr.co.il by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id BAA10219; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 01:58:27 -0700 Received: from rea1.bvr.co.il by bvr.co.il via SMTP (920330.SGI/920502.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer@sgi.com id AA03516; Thu, 20 Apr 95 12:04:01 +0300 Received: by rea1.bvr.co.il (940816.SGI.8.6.9/911001.SGI) for info-performer@sgi.com id LAA01203; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:55:49 +0300 From: "Ran Yakir" Message-Id: <9504201155.ZM1201@rea1.bvr.co.il> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:55:46 +0000 In-Reply-To: Angus Dorbie "Re: radar simulation" (Apr 19, 12:17pm) References: <9504191036.AA21775@maria.ffa.se> <9504191217.ZM13044@caliban> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Re: radar simulation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O > > We have a customer who needs to connect and Indy to a some sort of > > radar equipment. Old fashioned as they are they want to simulate > > the old kind of display. You know, phosphor that glows for a while > > and then drops in intensity. Would this be a job for performer > > or is there other tools more suitable for this ? > > We would be very grateful for any kind of hints in this direction. > > My view is that performer doesn't have a lot to offer this kind of > application. > > I'd try GL (orthographic projection) with asynchronous updates to fading > objects on the radar display with a complete redraw only along the sweep > line. This would avoid clearing the framebuffer (probably your biggest > overhead in this type of application) and drawing the whole scene every > frame and it could still be double buffered if required. > I think that the most appropriate solution for radar blips fading on an INDY would be to use color maps. You may not need doublebuffering if you do so, so you'll exploit your INDY's bitplanes better. You might even end up with 8 bitplane INDY. What you should do is divide the time range from the birth of a blip to its death, into 256 (or any other amount of colors less than 256). You than set up your colormap to have shades of green, ranging from total dark to bright green. Each new blip will get a color according to its birth time in the total 256 time-slots cycle. On each cycle, you offset the colormap values by one. I propobaly haven't thought of all the possible problems here, but the approach might work. Good luck Ran -- __ | Ran Yakir /_) _ __ \ / _ / o __ | Graphics App. Chief Engineer / )_ (_(_) ) \/ (_(_/<_(_)( | BVR Technologies Ltd. _/ | -------------------------------------+-------------------------------- Phone : | E-mail : rany@bvr.co.il Work : 972-3-5715671 | Res. : 972-9-989974 | Fax : 972-3-5715668 | From guest Thu Apr 20 09:35:11 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id JAA08252; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:32:33 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id JAA08249; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:32:32 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA26234; Thu, 20 Apr 95 09:32:31 -0700 Received: from ctaeng.com by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id JAA20292; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:32:25 -0700 Received: from support.ctaeng.com by ctaeng.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22283; Thu, 20 Apr 95 10:32:10 MDT Received: from getreal.mss.ctaeng.com by support.ctaeng.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA18825; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 10:32:02 -0600 Received: by getreal.mss.ctaeng.com (931110.SGI/920502.SGI.AUTO) for @support.ctaeng.com:info-performer@sgi.com id AA04103; Thu, 20 Apr 95 10:33:00 -0600 From: "`Bwana' Bob Buckley" Message-Id: <9504201032.ZM4101@getreal.mss.ctaeng.com> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 10:32:55 -0600 In-Reply-To: Simon Bennett "Re: pfLightPoint Color Binding?" (Apr 19, 1:10pm) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: Simon Bennett Subject: Re: pfLightPoint Color Binding? Cc: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Length: 2695 Status: O Hello Simon! On Apr 19, 1:10pm, Simon Bennett wrote: > Subject: Re: pfLightPoint Color Binding? > On Tue, 18 Apr 1995, `Bwana' Bob Buckley wrote: > > > How can I determine the color binding of a pfLightPoint? > > Do you mean per vertex as opposed to overall? > > If so, I believe that under Performer 1.2 you cannot (except by perusing > pfPrint output). I've asked this question on a number of occasions and never > gotten any response. The 14.1f version of the Multigen flight loader will > always use a per vertex colour binding. Contact multigen technical support > if you need this (they are very helpful). Of course this only helps if you > are using Multigen! > As you say 'by perusing pfPrint', then there must be a way to query for the binding. I have no idea how they do it because when I query the using the wrong index (PFLP_OVERALL -vs- a whole number) I get a seg fault. We do use MultiGen 14.0 with the 14.1 loader. Marcus only binds per vertex when there are differing colors, tolerance dependent. > > The only other help I can give is that pfLightpoints are created with an > overall colour binding, and remain with it until you change the colour of > an *individual point* within the pfLightpoint. If you want to keep an > overall colour binding then use pfLPointColor() with PFLP_OVERALL in the > index parameter. The same with pfGetLPointColor(). (I don't think that > PFLP_OVERALL is documented anywhere) > Well, I'm modifying pfLightPoints after the scene graph is completely loaded. Since it seg faults when I try to find out the binding I have no way of making modifications. I did find out one thing. When I create light points they automatically get created as non-omnidirectional. This is MultiGen V14.0. I have to manually go in and force lights to be omni-directional. This causes light strings to be bound as PFLP_OVERALL. Hence, no seg faults. > > BTW - I've been led to believe that the entire pfLightpoint API is > changing in Performer 2.0 - something about the pfLightpoint Node being > scrapped. Instead you apply a pfLightPointState to a pfGeoSet.... > That's what I need they query capability for. To post convert a pfLightPoint to a pfGeoSet. =========================================================================== 'Bwana' Bob Buckley CTA, Inc. Sr. Software Engineer 5670 Greenwood Plaza Blvd Visual Systems Englewood, CO 80111 (303) 889-1207 (303) 889-1200 bbuckley@ctaeng.com (303) 889-1398 Fax =========================================================================== From guest Thu Apr 20 10:13:28 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id KAA08333; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 10:05:11 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id KAA08330; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 10:05:10 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA27811; Thu, 20 Apr 95 10:05:05 -0700 Received: from ctaeng.com by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id KAA28220; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 10:05:01 -0700 Received: from support.ctaeng.com by ctaeng.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22303; Thu, 20 Apr 95 11:04:56 MDT Received: from getreal.mss.ctaeng.com by support.ctaeng.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA18925; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:04:49 -0600 Received: by getreal.mss.ctaeng.com (931110.SGI/920502.SGI.AUTO) for @support.ctaeng.com:info-performer@sgi.com id AA04223; Thu, 20 Apr 95 11:05:46 -0600 From: "`Bwana' Bob Buckley" Message-Id: <9504201105.ZM4221@getreal.mss.ctaeng.com> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:05:41 -0600 In-Reply-To: millard@hawkeye.newport.sgi.com (Ed Millard) "Re: Available airliner models" (Apr 19, 9:38am) References: <199504191638.JAA05381@hawkeye.newport.sgi.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: millard@hawkeye.newport.sgi.com (Ed Millard) Subject: Re: Available airliner models Cc: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Length: 891 Status: O On Apr 19, 9:38am, Ed Millard wrote: > > The Defense Mapping Agency has DTED data for much of the Northern Hemisphere. > I have a 5-6 page Postscript file put out by the Army describing DMA and > USGS sources for digitial elevation data if your interested. It lists > some contacts for info on DMA as: > Ed, could you upload that postscript file to the Performer area on sgigate? Thanks. =========================================================================== 'Bwana' Bob Buckley CTA, Inc. Sr. Software Engineer 5670 Greenwood Plaza Blvd Visual Systems Englewood, CO 80111 (303) 889-1207 (303) 889-1200 bbuckley@ctaeng.com (303) 889-1398 Fax =========================================================================== From guest Thu Apr 20 10:21:22 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id KAA08360; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 10:17:21 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id KAA08357; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 10:17:21 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA28482; Thu, 20 Apr 95 10:17:20 -0700 Received: from ctaeng.com by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id KAA01099; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 10:17:12 -0700 Received: from support.ctaeng.com by ctaeng.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22319; Thu, 20 Apr 95 11:17:05 MDT Received: from getreal.mss.ctaeng.com by support.ctaeng.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA18971; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:16:59 -0600 Received: by getreal.mss.ctaeng.com (931110.SGI/920502.SGI.AUTO) for @support.ctaeng.com:info-performer@sgi.com id AA04313; Thu, 20 Apr 95 11:17:55 -0600 From: "`Bwana' Bob Buckley" Message-Id: <9504201117.ZM4311@getreal.mss.ctaeng.com> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:17:51 -0600 In-Reply-To: "david pratt" "Change of color in Perfly" (Apr 19, 5:51pm) References: <199504192034.NAA23637@tubes.asd.sgi.com> <9504191751.ZM28135@medusa.cs.nps.navy.mil> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: "david pratt" Subject: Re: Change of color in Perfly Cc: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Length: 854 Status: O Hi Dave! > > I have a model that looks fine in Multigen, nice purple color. When I load > it in Performer, even in Perfly, it appears to be flat black. It is a ver14 > model and the loader is the ver14 loader. Any ideas? I am at a complete lost. > Here is part of the model. > Your color indexes (15359) on the non-feet polygons are a little too big. =========================================================================== 'Bwana' Bob Buckley CTA, Inc. Sr. Software Engineer 5670 Greenwood Plaza Blvd Visual Systems Englewood, CO 80111 (303) 889-1207 (303) 889-1200 bbuckley@ctaeng.com (303) 889-1398 Fax =========================================================================== From guest Thu Apr 20 10:56:37 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id KAA08575; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 10:53:24 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id KAA08572; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 10:53:23 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA00558; Thu, 20 Apr 95 10:53:22 -0700 Received: from sparky.bvu-lads.loral.com by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id KAA11538; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 10:53:19 -0700 Received: by sparky.bvu-lads.loral.com (5.65a/BVU-4.0) id AA08023; Thu, 20 Apr 95 10:46:27 -0700 From: hlind@bvu-lads.loral.com (Henrik Lind) Message-Id: <9504201746.AA08023@sparky.bvu-lads.loral.com> Subject: pfLightAmbient vs pfLModelAmbient To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com (Performer Help) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 10:46:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 107 Status: O Can someone explain to me the difference between these two? Thank You, Henrik Lind Loral ADS Bellevue, WA From guest Thu Apr 20 13:00:03 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id MAA09161; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 12:44:45 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id MAA09158; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 12:44:44 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA07061; Thu, 20 Apr 95 12:44:40 -0700 Received: from class.eng.ohio-state.edu by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id MAA06653; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 12:44:36 -0700 Received: by class.eng.ohio-state.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) for info-performer@sgi.com id PAA11142; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 15:55:04 -0400 From: "mahmoud halfawy" Message-Id: <9504201554.ZM11140@class.eng.ohio-state.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 15:54:57 -0400 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: subscribe Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O subscribe -- Mahmoud Halfawi mahmoud@class.eng.ohio-state.edu Construction Laboratory for Automation and System Simulation (CLASS) Ohio State University Phone: (614)292-7631- FAX: (614)292-7631 From guest Thu Apr 20 13:16:49 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id NAA09245; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 13:03:24 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id NAA09242; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 13:03:20 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA07780; Thu, 20 Apr 95 13:03:11 -0700 Received: from palladium.corp.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id NAA09945; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 13:03:08 -0700 Received: from hawkeye.newport.sgi.com by palladium.corp.sgi.com via ESMTP (940519.SGI.8.6.9/911001.SGI) for id NAA24828; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 13:03:05 -0700 Received: by hawkeye.newport.sgi.com (950215.SGI.8.6.10/911001.SGI) id NAA06670; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 13:00:32 -0700 From: millard@hawkeye.newport.sgi.com (Ed Millard) Message-Id: <199504202000.NAA06670@hawkeye.newport.sgi.com> Subject: Re: Available airliner models To: bbuckley@ctaeng.com (`Bwana' Bob Buckley) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 13:00:32 -0800 (PDT) Cc: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <9504201105.ZM4221@getreal.mss.ctaeng.com> from "`Bwana' Bob Buckley" at Apr 20, 95 11:05:41 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1523 Status: O > > > On Apr 19, 9:38am, Ed Millard wrote: > > > > The Defense Mapping Agency has DTED data for much of the Northern Hemisphere. > > I have a 5-6 page Postscript file put out by the Army describing DMA and > > USGS sources for digitial elevation data if your interested. It lists > > some contacts for info on DMA as: > > > > Ed, could you upload that postscript file to the Performer area on sgigate? > The white paper is on sgigate at: pub/Performerdocs/AcquirElevData.ps.Z Beware it may be a little dated. Also the Performer DTED reader that was contributed a while ago is at: pub/Performer/src/npsdted.tar.Z A very good source for seeing what available in DEM elevation data and satellite imagery for the US is the USGS web page at: http://info.er.usgs.gov/ An finally an interesting Quicktime/AVI movie file, on the web, of a fly over of Mt. Everest using DTED and Landsat images shown on PBS. Dont think it uses performer though you would have to the company that made it, TASC, for details. They also may have info on getting DTED data for international locations. http://www.tasc.com/ENTERTAINMENT/himalayas.html ============================================================================= Ed Millard | 18201 Von Karman Avenue Silicon Graphics Inc. | Suite 100 Developer's Support Group | Irvine, CA 92715 millard@sgi.com | (714) 756-5975 ============================================================================= From guest Thu Apr 20 14:22:14 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id OAA09526; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 14:07:09 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id OAA09523; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 14:07:08 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA11148; Thu, 20 Apr 95 14:07:07 -0700 Received: from zeus.sdl.USU.edu by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id OAA24467; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 14:07:05 -0700 Received: from trex.pipe.sdl.usu.edu (trex.idec.sdl.usu.edu) by zeus.sdl.USU.edu (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA09549; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 15:06:56 -0600 Received: by trex.pipe.sdl.usu.edu (931110.SGI/920502.SGI.AUTO) for @sdl.usu.edu:nat@od.sri.com id AA14123; Thu, 20 Apr 95 15:06:46 -0600 From: "Satish K. Annapureddy" Message-Id: <9504201506.ZM14121@trex.pipe.sdl.usu.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 15:06:46 -0600 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: cursor Cc: satish@trex.pipe.sdl.USU.edu, nat@od.sri.com, satish@trex.pipe.sdl.USU.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: O Hello, I am trying to position the cursor in a modified version of perfly. I am using setvaluator() , while running perfly in PFUINPUT_GL mode. It works whenever the window is resized , but only once, and then the subsequent calls to setvaluator () do not seem to have any effect. I would very much appreciate any comments in this regard. Same thing happens if I run perfly in PFUINPUT_X mode (GLX mode) ( NB: The bug section of the man pages on GLXWinset() mention that setvaluator() etc do not work in GLX mode and hence should not be used) Btw, setvaluator() works fine in other GL programs that I have written. Thanks in advance, Satish From guest Thu Apr 20 12:28:31 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id MAA08950; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 12:23:20 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id MAA08945; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 12:23:19 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA06083; Thu, 20 Apr 95 12:23:18 -0700 Received: from politix.iao.fhg.de by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id MAA03417; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 12:23:12 -0700 Received: from matrix.ergo.iao.fhg.de by politix.iao.fhg.de with SMTP (iao.fhg.de:9403141) id VAA20121; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 21:22:40 +0200 Message-Id: <199504201922.VAA20121@politix.iao.fhg.de> Received: from MATRIX/MERCURYQUEUE by matrix.ergo.iao.fhg.de (Mercury 1.1); Thu, 20 Apr 95 21:22:22 GMT To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com From: "Roland Blach" Organization: FhG-IAO Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 21:22:04 GMT Subject: subscribe X-Mailer: WinPMail v1.0 (R2) Status: O subscribe ---------------------------------------------------------- roland blach fraunhofergesellschaft iao stuttgart, germany ---------------------------------------------------------- fon : +49(0)711/970-2189 email: roland.blach@iao.fhg.de From guest Thu Apr 20 20:32:05 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id UAA12107; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 20:07:45 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id UAA12104; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 20:07:44 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA29531; Thu, 20 Apr 95 20:07:38 -0700 Received: from lakers.engin.umich.edu by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id UAA26971; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 20:07:36 -0700 Received: from localhost (aut@localhost) by lakers.engin.umich.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with SMTP id XAA03387 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 23:07:34 -0400 Message-Id: <199504210307.XAA03387@lakers.engin.umich.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: lakers.engin.umich.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Question about pfGetchild & switch Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 23:07:32 +0100 From: Choon H Lee Status: O Could anyone give a hint what might be wrong with the following code? The return value of the line cc = pfGetChild(ViewState->sceneGroup, 0); turns to be 0, although it should not be. long initSceneGraph(pfScene *scene) { pfGroup *root; long i; long loaded = 0; pfSphere bsphere; pfGroup *newbut; pfSwitch *s; pfNode *cc, *cc2; /* Create a DCS for TRACKBALL pfuXformer */ ViewState->sceneDCS = pfNewDCS(); ViewState->sceneGroup = pfNewGroup(); pfAddChild(scene, ViewState->sceneDCS); pfAddChild(ViewState->sceneDCS, ViewState->sceneGroup); ... /* add switch for changing button color */ cc = pfGetChild(ViewState->sceneGroup, 0); cc2 = pfGetChild(cc, 0); cc = pfGetChild(cc2, 6); ... } Thanks in advance, -- Choon. _________________________________________________________________________ Choon H. LEE phone: (313) 769 7834 (home) College of Engineering The University of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109, U.S.A. email: aut@engin.umich.edu _________________________________________________________________________ Art is to beauty what honor is to honesty. -- Winston Churchill From guest Thu Apr 20 17:18:33 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id RAA10569; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:00:38 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id RAA10566; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:00:38 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA20826; Thu, 20 Apr 95 17:00:29 -0700 Received: from sgihub.corp.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id RAA29715; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:00:18 -0700 Received: from death.reading.sgi.com by sgihub.corp.sgi.com via ESMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/911001.SGI) for id RAA09786; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:00:10 -0700 Received: by death.reading.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) for info-performer@sgi.sgi.com id AAA02995; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 00:56:45 +0100 From: "Angus Henderson" Message-Id: <9504210056.ZM2993@death.reading.sgi.com> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 00:56:44 +0100 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Fog Sweet Spots Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O ...just to belabour the point... if all you want is a nice distant fuzzy horizon with no fog in the main part of the scene then there is a reasonable compromise. Use PIX_LIN fog set the near and far fog ranges to be very close together somewhere within the far clip range gently adjust your near clip plane and you can find a point where you still have a reasonable near-far clip depth and a perfect horizon I got away with near clip 15m far clip 50000m near fog 39999 far fog 40000. It's not perfect but it just about allows me to sit 2m above the ground without seeing the near clip plane. ANgus From guest Thu Apr 20 18:08:12 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id RAA11001; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:50:37 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id RAA10989; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:50:27 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA23332; Thu, 20 Apr 95 17:50:26 -0700 Received: from warrane.connect.com.au by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id RAA08416; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:50:04 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by warrane.connect.com.au with UUCP id KAA05018 (8.6.11/IDA-1.6); Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:49:31 +1000 Received: from aggro (aggro_e) by zebedee.wormald.com.au with SMTP id AA19654 (5.65c/IDA-1.5); Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:33:52 +1000 Received: from krusty by aggro with SMTP id AA26189 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:34:59 +1000 Received: by krusty (5.65) id AA09263; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:34:58 +1000 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:34:55 +1000 (EST) From: Simon Bennett Sender: Simon Bennett Reply-To: Simon Bennett Subject: Re: pfLightPoint Color Binding? To: "`Bwana' Bob Buckley" Cc: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <9504201032.ZM4101@getreal.mss.ctaeng.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Status: O On Thu, 20 Apr 1995, `Bwana' Bob Buckley wrote: > Hello Simon! Hi Bob... > On Apr 19, 1:10pm, Simon Bennett wrote: > > Subject: Re: pfLightPoint Color Binding? > > On Tue, 18 Apr 1995, `Bwana' Bob Buckley wrote: > > > > > How can I determine the color binding of a pfLightPoint? > > Do you mean per vertex as opposed to overall? > > > As you say 'by perusing pfPrint', then there must be a way to query for the > binding. I have no idea how they do it because when I query the using the wrong That's what I figured... but I couldn't find a way to do it or find anybody who could tell me! > index (PFLP_OVERALL -vs- a whole number) I get a seg fault. We do use MultiGen > 14.0 with the 14.1 loader. Marcus only binds per vertex when there are > differing colors, tolerance dependent. Yeh, if you get the wrong colour mode then your application is history. I talked to Marcus about this and he gave me another cut of the loader (14.1f) which *always* binds per vertex. Apparently PFLP_OVERALL colour mode is dodgy anyway (I think I has mail to back this up too) > > BTW - I've been led to believe that the entire pfLightpoint API is > > changing in Performer 2.0 - something about the pfLightpoint Node being > > scrapped. Instead you apply a pfLightPointState to a pfGeoSet.... > That's what I need they query capability for. To post convert a pfLightPoint to > a pfGeoSet. That sounds sensible. Do you know what pfLightPoint states are going to do for us? +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Simon Bennett simonb@wormald.com.au Wormald Technology Advanced Systems Engineering Ph: +61 2 981 0611 (x512) Computer Terms: hardware - the part of a computer system that one can kick From guest Thu Apr 20 18:29:33 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id SAA11245; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 18:12:12 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id SAA11241; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 18:12:07 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA24454; Thu, 20 Apr 95 18:12:06 -0700 Received: from stealth.afit.af.mil by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id SAA12030; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 18:12:03 -0700 Received: from pheasant.afit.af.mil by stealth.afit.af.mil with SMTP id AA16721 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 20 Apr 1995 20:38:34 -0400 From: Neal W Schneider Message-Id: <199504210038.AA16721@stealth.afit.af.mil> Subject: Window IN a virtual environment To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 20:38:23 EDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: O Howdy all! I am adding some features to a cockpit in a virtual environment that has been developed using Performer 1.2. One of my objectives is to add a rendered display on a console in the cockpit. The current system has a seperate pipe that displays in a fixed area on the screen, but I need to take the rendered oputput from that display and project onto a plane in the cockpit--sort of like seeing a video on a panel in the virtual environment. I figure that it shouldn't bee too difficult, and I think that I should be able to get at the rendereing pipleline just before it is displayed and apply another trasnformation to it, but don't quite see how. If anybody has any ideas or suggestions, please feel free to contact me at the places below. Thanks! Capt Neal Schneider. AFIT/ENA Box #4182 Software Engineer 2950 P Street Air Force Institute of Technology WPAFB, OH 45433-7765 (513) 255-3636 ext 1212 nschneid@afit.af.mil Graphics Lab: http://www.afit.af.mil/ENGgraphics/GRAPHICS.html Personal Page: http://www.cybernetics.net/users/phrantic/n6.htm ____________________________________________ If you turn your troubles over to God, you'll have nothing left to worry about. <>< From guest Mon Apr 24 05:10:39 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id EAA25150; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 04:30:36 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id EAA25147; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 04:30:36 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA20047; Mon, 24 Apr 95 04:30:30 -0700 Received: from sgihub.corp.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id EAA19544; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 04:30:29 -0700 Received: from sgitokyo.nsg.sgi.com by sgihub.corp.sgi.com via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/911001.SGI) for id EAA22227; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 04:30:24 -0700 Received: from dimwit.dst.nk-exa.co.jp by sgitokyo.nsg.sgi.com via UUCP (931110.SGI.ANONFTP/911001.SGI) for info-performer@sgi.sgi.com id AA23801; Mon, 24 Apr 95 20:30:17 +0900 Received: from dimwit.dst.nk-exa.co.jp by exagw.nk-exa.co.jp (8.6.9+2.4W/3.3W9/1.6) with SMTP id RAA05152; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 17:01:16 +0900 Received: from localhost.dst.nk-exa.co.jp by dimwit.dst.nk-exa.co.jp via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI.AUTO) for @exagw.nk-exa.co.jp:info-performer@sgi.sgi.com id AA14911; Fri, 21 Apr 95 17:02:02 +0900 To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: ptu on IRIX5.3 Reply-To: wry@dst.nk-exa.co.jp Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 17:01:53 +0900 Message-Id: <14907.798451313@dimwit.dst.nk-exa.co.jp> From: Masahiko Yamanaka Status: O Hello, I'm using LoadPtu(). It's nice on the Indigo/R4000-Entry(IRIX5.2), but seems not to work on Onyx-RE2(IRIX5.3). I re-compiled on Onyx. The following are dbx messages. --BEGIN-- (dbx) run wry64.ptu Process 8302 (perfly.OPT) terminated Process 8327 (perfly.OPT) started Performer Info (2): All 2 processors available on this machine. IL: Defining Image wry1024.rgb: <1024 1024> * <1.000 1.000> => <1024 1024> IL: Defining Image wry64.bw: <64 64> * <1.000 1.000> => <64 64> Process 8327 (perfly.OPT) stopped on signal SIGSEGV: Segmentation violation (default) [_usgetinfo:243 ,0xfb006d4] Source (of usconfig.c) not available for Process 8327 (dbx) where > 0 _usgetinfo(0x0, 0x10000, 0x20124, 0xfffffffc) ["usconfig.c":243, 0xfb006d4] 1 ilAuxBuffer::init(void)(0x0, 0x10000, 0x20124, 0xfffffffc) ["ilAuxBuffer.c++":426, 0xe499834] 2 ilAuxImg::ilAuxImg(ilImage*)(0x1012bdf8, 0x1011a6b8, 0x20124, 0xfffffffc) ["ilAuxImg.c++":106, 0xe49b1f0] 3 ilHwPassRE::getAuxImg(ilImage*,int)(0x1012b4f0, 0x1011a6b8, 0x1, 0xfffffffc) ["ilHwPassRE.c++":699, 0xe4a401c] 4 ilHwPassRE::readInit(void)(0x1012b4f0, 0x10000, 0x20124, 0xfffffffc) ["ilHwPassRE.c++":812, 0xe4a477c] 5 ilHwPassRE::getTile(int,int,int,int,int,int,void*,int,int,int,int,int,int,const ilHwResult&)(0x1012b4f0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0) ["ilHwPassRE.c++":867, 0xe4a0da0] 6 ilOpImg::getSubTile3D(int,int,int,int,int,int,void*,int,int,int,int,int,int,const ilConfig*)(0x1011a6b8, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0) ["ilOpImg.c++":754, 0xe4800e8] 7 ilMemoryImg::syncData(void)(0x1011a8d8, 0x10000, 0x20124, 0xfffffffc) ["ilMemoryImg.c++":157, 0xe47ad10] 8 ilMemoryImg::reset(void)(0x1011a8d8, 0x10000, 0x20124, 0xfffffffc) ["ilMemoryImg.c++":132, 0xe47abc4] 9 ilLink::resetCheck(void)(0x1011a8d8, 0x10000, 0x20124, 0xfffffffc) ["ilLink.c++":223, 0xe476238] 10 ilMemoryImgGetDataPtr(0x1011a8d8, 0x10000, 0x20124, 0xfffffffc) ["ilMemoryImg_c.c++":36, 0xdeda848] 11 ilgettile(0x101091a8, 0x0, 0x0, 0x80) ["../ilgettile.c":125, 0x453e00] 12 MakeTextureList(0x182a2100, 0x10000, 0x20124, 0xfffffffc) ["../pfptu.c":315, 0x44dcb8] 13 LoadPtu(0x0, 0x0, 0x20124, 0xfffffffc) ["../pfptu.c":68, 0x44c9a0] 14 LoadFile(0x7fffaff0, 0x0, 0x20124, 0xfffffffc) ["../loadfile.c":114, 0x43669c] 15 initSceneGraph(0x182a1ee0, 0x10000, 0x20124, 0xfffffffc) ["../perfly.c":167, 0x434310] 16 InitScene(0x0, 0x10000, 0x20124, 0xfffffffc) ["../generic.c":266, 0x42eb84] 17 main(0x2, 0x7fffaf44, 0x20124, 0xfffffffc) ["../main.c":96, 0x436008] 18 __start() ["crt1text.s":133, 0x42dd1c] --END-- Does anyone know what was wrong ? Thanks, -- M.Y. From guest Fri Apr 21 05:41:44 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id FAA12639; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 05:24:56 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id FAA12636; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 05:24:55 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA10663; Fri, 21 Apr 95 05:24:49 -0700 Received: from dw3si.ess.harris.com by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id FAA28017; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 05:24:47 -0700 From: bmcquear@dw3f.ess.harris.com Received: by dw3si.ess.harris.com (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA03516; Fri, 21 Apr 95 08:25:11 -0400 Message-Id: <9504211225.AA03516@dw3si.ess.harris.com> To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Channel Borders Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 08:25:11 -0400 X-Mts: smtp Status: O I am working on an application rendering two channels inside of a GLX widget. Is there a simple way to draw a border around the channels? Even drawing a simple line down the middle of the window to separate the two channels would be ok. Thanks, Bruce McQueary Harris Corporation 407-984-6813 From guest Fri Apr 21 07:28:08 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id HAA12736; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 07:04:15 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id HAA12733; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 07:04:15 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA12243; Fri, 21 Apr 95 07:04:14 -0700 Received: from DNADP3.DNA.MIL by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id HAA03759; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 07:04:11 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 07:04:11 -0700 Message-Id: <199504211404.HAA03759@sgi.sgi.com> Received: from wolf.spock.visidyne.hsv.com ([204.121.254.10]) by DNADP3.DNA.MIL with SMTP; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:04:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: 608122@dnavax X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com From: sartor@lanl.gov (ken sartor) Subject: problems moving graphics to RE2 Status: O Hi, I have a model that draws stuff to the screen (in a draw callback) that works on my Indigo XZ and on an Indigo2 with extreme graphics but appears to fail on an Onyx with RE2 graphics. By fail i mean that where images are rendered on the Indigos no graphics are seen on the Onyx. It is basically very simple code (it runs in a version of perfly) that uses zbuffering and line draws (see below). cpack(col); bgnline(); v3i(xyz1); v3i(xyz2); endline(); Does anyone have any suggestions about what may be happening? Thanks! ken sartor From guest Fri Apr 21 09:46:03 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id JAA13008; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:28:28 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id JAA13005; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:28:24 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA16745; Fri, 21 Apr 95 09:28:16 -0700 Received: from disperse.demon.co.uk by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id JAA17364; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:27:54 -0700 Received: from post.demon.co.uk by disperse.demon.co.uk id aa23354; 21 Apr 95 17:00 GMT-60:00 Received: from division.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id aa25167; 21 Apr 95 17:00 GMT-60:00 Received: from caliban.division.demon.co.uk by division.demon.co.uk (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA32156; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 16:37:32 +0100 Received: by caliban (931110.SGI/921111.SGI) for info-performer@sgi.com id AA02885; Fri, 21 Apr 95 16:37:31 +0100 From: Angus Dorbie Message-Id: <9504211637.ZM2883@caliban> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 16:37:31 +0100 In-Reply-To: ken sartor "problems moving graphics to RE2" (Apr 21, 7:04am) References: <199504211404.HAA03759@sgi.sgi.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Re: problems moving graphics to RE2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: O > I have a model that draws stuff to the screen (in a draw callback) > that works on my Indigo XZ and on an Indigo2 with extreme graphics > but appears to fail on an Onyx with RE2 graphics. By fail i mean > that where images are rendered on the Indigos no graphics are seen > on the Onyx. It is basically very simple code (it runs in a version > of perfly) that uses zbuffering and line draws (see below). > > cpack(col); > bgnline(); > v3i(xyz1); > v3i(xyz2); > endline(); > > Does anyone have any suggestions about what may be happening? Check that the alpha information in the cpack is opaque, try: cpack( 0xFF000000 | col ); Regards, -- Angus Dorbie Division Ltd, Software Engineer 19 Apex Court, Tel: (01454)615554 Woodlands, Fax: (01454)615532 Bristol BS12 4JT, angus@division.demon.co.uk UK From guest Fri Apr 21 09:38:17 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id JAA12982; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:14:40 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id JAA12979; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:14:40 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA16192; Fri, 21 Apr 95 09:14:30 -0700 Received: from palladium.corp.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id JAA15824; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:14:12 -0700 Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by palladium.corp.sgi.com via SMTP (940519.SGI.8.6.9/911001.SGI) id JAA27231; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:14:07 -0700 Received: from tubes.asd.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for @sgihub.corp.sgi.com:bbuckley@ctaeng.com id AA16173; Fri, 21 Apr 95 09:14:03 -0700 Received: by tubes.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id JAA12955; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:11:40 -0700 From: jrohlf@tubes (John Rohlf) Message-Id: <199504211611.JAA12955@tubes.asd.sgi.com> Subject: Re: pfLightPoint Color Binding? To: guest (Simon Bennett) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 9:11:39 PDT Cc: bbuckley@ctaeng.com, info-performer@sgi.sgi.com In-Reply-To: ; from "Simon Bennett" at Apr 21, 95 10:34 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL8] Status: O > That sounds sensible. Do you know what pfLightPoint states are going to > do for us? Here is the pfLPointState man page. View with pcat pfLPointState.z | col| ul | more -s -f begin 664 pfLPointState.z M'QX``,IV$``!`0$�X("@@""00`!P`((&504U]A:70*149,3V9H;&YO<')S M+D%$1TE-3E)48V1G;74H+$-88G9W>2DJ+3`R2%9::W@O,3,T.T)5>C4]&S8Y M.CY766IQ)S+++5U=750T-#0.SL[.9LV;%-34U(<.'!/3T] M./'CQ;MV[8\>/%^_?OCQX\9YYY",(PC"`&P&P&P&5U=750T-#0`V!L#8&MMM MMMMMMMM&8S&8P?C\?CQF,QF,;MV[:S9LV3SSRMK:VLAH:&@IJ:FHMK:VL4RF M4RD\\\K:VMK4%8*P5@H1B,1B`3@G!.":EI:6E#APX!F&89ABNKJZJVMK:U'X M_'X^>>>4-#0T)YYY6UM;6GGGE/3T],CD>>0[#L.PX[. 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One of my objectives is to add a > rendered display on a console in the cockpit. The current system > has a seperate pipe that displays in a fixed area on the screen, but I > need to take the rendered oputput from that display and project onto a > plane in the cockpit--sort of like seeing a video on a panel in the > virtual environment. > > I figure that it shouldn't bee too difficult, and I think that I should > be able to get at the rendereing pipleline just before it is displayed > and apply another trasnformation to it, but don't quite see how. Try this: 1. render the scene for the console/monitor display. 2. use "subtexload," "fbsubtexload," and/or "texdef2d" with the "TX_FASTDEFINE" token to copy the rendered image to texture memory (I assume your using a RealityEngine). You may also have to set readsource to the back buffer. 3. render the virual scene using the texture in (2) to draw your virtual monitor. -- Wade ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wade Olsen, wade@sgi.com, 415-390-1023, Silicon Studio From guest Fri Apr 21 12:26:27 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id MAA13525; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:08:46 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id MAA13515; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:08:37 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA24310; Fri, 21 Apr 95 12:08:32 -0700 Received: from vsl.ist.ucf.edu by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id MAA11324; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:08:24 -0700 Received: from crusader.vsl.ist.ucf.edu by vsl.ist.ucf.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06887; Fri, 21 Apr 95 14:15:51 EDT Received: by crusader.vsl.ist.ucf.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9) id OAA21026; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 14:14:27 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 14:14:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "Lance R. Marrou" To: bmcquear@dw3f.ess.harris.com Cc: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Re: Channel Borders In-Reply-To: <9504211225.AA03516@dw3si.ess.harris.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O On Fri, 21 Apr 1995 bmcquear@dw3f.ess.harris.com wrote: > > I am working on an application rendering two channels inside of a GLX > widget. Is there a simple way to draw a border around the channels? > Even drawing a simple line down the middle of the window to separate > the two channels would be ok. > This would probably be best accomplished in the overlay plane. One solution would be to draw an n-pixel line at the edges of each channel in the overlay bitplane and then you can forget about it (until a redraw event, of course). ______________________________________________________________________________ /\ ______ /\____ ______ ______ E-mail: marrou@vsl.ist.ucf.edu Visual / / / _ / / __ // ____// ____/ VSL: (407)658-5073 Systems / /__ / /_/ / / / / // /___ / __/_ R. Marrou Fax: (407)658-5059 Lab /____//____/\\/_/ /_//_____//_____/ http://www.vsl.ist.ucf.edu/~marrou "Reap the whirlwind." "We don't need no thought control." From guest Fri Apr 21 15:53:22 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id PAA14614; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:36:15 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id PAA14611; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:36:14 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA03549; Fri, 21 Apr 95 15:36:14 -0700 Received: from gatekeeper.ray.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id PAA20538; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:36:07 -0700 Received: from localhost (mailer@localhost) by gatekeeper.ray.com (8.6.4/8.6.5) id RAA11012 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 17:57:25 -0400 Received: from swlrgk.msd.ray.com by gatekeeper.ray.com; Fri Apr 21 17:57:13 1995 Received: (from shj@localhost) by swlrgk.msd.ray.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA07708; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 17:57:03 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 17:57:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen Joyce {75069} To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Cc: Stephen Joyce {75069} Subject: unsubscribe Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O Please unsubscribe me for now, Thanks, Steve Joyce From guest Fri Apr 21 16:50:37 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id QAA14784; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 16:37:28 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id QAA14771; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 16:37:20 -0700 Received: from sgihub.corp.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA06372; Fri, 21 Apr 95 16:37:20 -0700 Received: from clubted.csd.sgi.com by sgihub.corp.sgi.com via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/911001.SGI) for id QAA09403; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 16:37:15 -0700 Received: by clubted.csd.sgi.com (931110.SGI/911001.SGI) for info-performer@sgi.com id AA08165; Fri, 21 Apr 95 16:37:14 -0700 From: "Cami Crofton" Message-Id: <9504211637.ZM8163@clubted.csd.sgi.com> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 16:37:13 -0700 X-Mailer: Z-Mail-SGI (3.0S.1026 26oct93 MediaMail) To: info-performer@sgihub.corp.sgi.com Subject: CBT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: O Thank you to all who responded to my Performer CBT request for interviewees. I will be contacting each of you directly early next week. I look forward to these discussions. Sincerely, Cami -- ---------------------------------------- Cami Crofton, Worldwide Education R & D Silicon Graphics Computer Systems Internet: ccrofton@csd.sgi.com Phone: 415-390-3541 Fax: 415-390-6267 From guest Sat Apr 22 06:28:27 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id GAA16335; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 06:01:29 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id GAA16332; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 06:01:28 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA19380; Sat, 22 Apr 95 06:01:28 -0700 Received: from mailgate.exnet.com by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id GAA09919; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 06:01:21 -0700 Received: from exnet.com (assam.exnet.com) by mailgate.exnet.com with SMTP id AA12253 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Sat, 22 Apr 1995 14:01:13 +0100 Received: by exnet.com id AA04539 (5.67a/IDA-1.4.4 for info-performer@sgi.com); Sat, 22 Apr 1995 14:01:07 +0100 Received: by ps.com (wcGATE v4) id 38338W Sat, 22 Apr 1995 14:00:08 GMT From: colin.knight@ps.com (Colin Knight) Subject: unsubscribe Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 08:52:00 GMT Message-Id: <95042214000823245@ps.com> Organization: Powerline Systems Ltd. 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To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Status: O unsubscribe colin.knight@ps.com --- * POW 1.2 0020 * Powerline Offline reader for Windows - QWK mail reader From guest Mon Apr 24 08:54:07 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id IAA26477; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 08:25:31 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id IAA26474; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 08:25:31 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA24296; Mon, 24 Apr 95 08:25:11 -0700 Received: from atc.boeing.com by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id IAA07238; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 08:25:09 -0700 Received: by atc.boeing.com (5.57) id AA05340; Mon, 24 Apr 95 08:30:09 -0700 Received: from aw503.iasl.ca.boeing.com by aw101.iasl.ca.boeing.com with SMTP id AA15615 (5.67a/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 24 Apr 1995 08:25:01 -0700 From: "David H. Whittington" Received: by aw503.info-performer@sgi.com (5.65c/client-1.3) id AA10572; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 08:24:58 -0700 Message-Id: <199504241524.AA10572@aw503.info-performer@sgi.com> Subject: Summary of airliner models and DTED To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 08:24:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL20] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2939 Status: O I wanted to thank all of you who responded to my questions about available airliner models and overseas(from the US perspective) DTED data. Viewpoint @229-3068(Jay Taylor) seems to be a great source of airliner and all sorts of models at reasonable prices. I do think that there should be a subdirectory at sgigate.sgi.com in the Performer area for all of us to "donate" nonlicensed models, particularly those that could be considered "realtime", i.e. a limit of 500 polygons per major object? I appreciated some of the simpler models at avalon (the 747-200 has over 9000 polygons and takes about 20 ms on an ONYX)By the way, Medit(the 3D Modeler) can take a high polygon count model like that and color(with materials) and texture it with ease - rendering performance is great (they also supply some rendering code for adding objects into Performer(a loader) or your own gl code. Secondly, the issue of non US DTED data. One very interesting response I got was from Axion Spatial Imaging(Tel: 403 488 3565 Fax 403 488 3889) regarding this kind of data(axion@sas.ab.ca): "AXI creates from stereo pairs of satellite imagery such models at 2 and 10 meter resolution, and from map sources at 100 meter resolution for most of the world if 1:250,000 scale or better map are available. We have created a worldwide 1,000 meter DTM database for aeronautical applications. " This last model - the world at 1000 meter posts may be too coarse for some applications BUT it is a great WORLDWIDE start! Also Ran Yakir of BVR says that they have a software package called MkDTM that can help(rany@bvr.co.il) I talked to some folks at the Army Topological Labs and others who feel that DMA is on the verge of making nonUS data available but it might take us to write letters to our Congressmen and DMA directly (1-800-826-0342) Address: DMA Headquarters ATTN: PR 8613 Lee Highway Fairfax, VA 22031-2137 Some more DTED data notes - one response mentioned a DTED performer reader: pub/Performer/src/npsdted.tar.Z A very good source for seeing what available in DEM elevation data and satellite imagery for the US is the USGS web page at: http://info.er.usgs.gov/ It was great to see the response from you all and it indicates the great interest in terrain and aircraft visualization. I hope that maybe we could start a FAQ list and like I said above, maybe an area at sgigate for contributions. Together we can get there faster and easier! .=========================================================================. / David H. Whittington | Voice: (206) 662-4610 (work) \ | Boeing Commercial Airplane | | | P.O. Box 3707, M/S 19-MH | Internet: dhw3314@aw101.iasl.ca.boeing.com | \ Seattle, WA 98124-2207 | #include "/boeing/sw/std_disclaimer.h" / `=========================================================================' From guest Mon Apr 24 03:53:59 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id DAA24710; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 03:16:55 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id DAA24707; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 03:16:51 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA18544; Mon, 24 Apr 95 03:16:43 -0700 Received: from hntp2.hinet.net by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id DAA16964; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 03:16:34 -0700 Received: from systech.hinet.net (systech.hinet.net [168.95.200.3]) by hntp2.hinet.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id SAA16194 for <@hntp2.hinet.net:info-performer@sgi.com>; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 18:16:29 +0800 Received: by systech.hinet.net (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for @hntp2.hinet.net:info-performer@sgi.com id AA00550; Mon, 24 Apr 95 19:12:36 -0700 Date: Mon, 24 Apr 95 19:12:36 -0700 From: terence@systech.hinet.net (Terence Ker) Message-Id: <9504250212.AA00550@systech.hinet.net> To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: pfSequence Status: O I have never made pfSequence work for me. Not just once. Whenever there is some kind of animation needed, I resort to prSwitch. Can anybody give me a very simple example, like simple.c, which makes use of pfSwitch and WORKS as expected. Thanks a lot -= Terence Ke =- Systems & Technology Taipei, Taiwan e-mail: terence@systech.hinet.net From guest Tue Apr 25 08:36:49 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id IAA22451; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 08:26:52 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id IAA22446; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 08:26:51 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA08246; Tue, 25 Apr 95 08:26:50 -0700 Received: from chris.gcs.redstone.army.mil by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id IAA00669; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 08:26:03 -0700 Received: by chris.gcs.redstone.army.mil (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@sgi.com id AA01301; Tue, 25 Apr 95 10:26:24 -0500 From: "Kevin R. McClure" Message-Id: <9504251026.ZM1299@chris.gcs.redstone.army.mil> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 10:26:24 -0500 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: overlay planes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: O I am wanting to draw in the overlay planes using OpenGL. Can I use overlay planes with OpenGL ? If not, how will the new Performer 2.0 support overlay plaens. From guest Tue Apr 25 10:01:35 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id JAA22960; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 09:50:31 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id JAA22957; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 09:50:26 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA12061; Tue, 25 Apr 95 09:50:25 -0700 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id JAA22430; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 09:50:23 -0700 Received: from uucp1.unix.portal.com (uucp1.unix.portal.com [156.151.1.100]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA25381 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 09:49:43 -0700 Received: from cory.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by uucp1.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with UUCP id JAA23950 for portal!sgi.com!info-performer; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 09:44:31 -0700 Received: by cory (920330.SGI/911001.SGI) for portal!sgi.com!info-performer id AA04641; Tue, 25 Apr 95 09:38:02 -0700 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 95 09:38:02 -0700 From: kowsik@cory.coryphaeus.com (Kowsik Guruswamy) Message-Id: <9504251638.AA04641@cory> To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: LightPoints... Status: O I looked through the man pages and couldn't find a call that I can use to get the number of lightPoints in a pfLightPoint. Is there such a way or am I missing something? Thanks, K. kowsik guruswamy From guest Tue Apr 25 09:50:13 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id JAA22931; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 09:45:44 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id JAA22928; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 09:45:42 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA11553; Tue, 25 Apr 95 09:45:35 -0700 Received: from sgihub.corp.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id JAA20191; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 09:45:32 -0700 Received: from hawkeye.newport.sgi.com by sgihub.corp.sgi.com via ESMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/911001.SGI) for id JAA00381; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 09:45:30 -0700 Received: by hawkeye.newport.sgi.com (950215.SGI.8.6.10/911001.SGI) id JAA01010; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 09:45:25 -0700 From: millard@hawkeye.newport.sgi.com (Ed Millard) Message-Id: <199504251645.JAA01010@hawkeye.newport.sgi.com> Subject: Re: overlay planes To: mcclure@chris.gcs.redstone.army.mil (Kevin R. McClure) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 09:45:25 -0800 (PDT) Cc: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <9504251026.ZM1299@chris.gcs.redstone.army.mil> from "Kevin R. McClure" at Apr 25, 95 10:26:24 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1448 Status: O > > I am wanting to draw in the overlay planes using OpenGL. Can I use overlay > planes with OpenGL ? If not, how will the new Performer 2.0 support overlay > plaens. > > > Yes, you can use overlays in OpenGL. You get a context in the overlay planes with glXChooseVisual as described in this excerpt from the man page: GLX_LEVEL Must be followed by an integer buffer-level specification. This specification is honored exactly. Buffer level zero corresponds to the default frame buffer of the display. Buffer level one is the first overlay frame buffer, level two the second overlay frame buffer, and so on. Negative buffer levels correspond to underlay frame buffers. I've also used X11 code written by Mark Kilgard that returns all the visuals with a transparent pixel and then you can look through these for the deepest visual avialable in the overlay planes. ============================================================================= Ed Millard | 18201 Von Karman Avenue Silicon Graphics Inc. | Suite 100 Developer's Support Group | Irvine, CA 92715 millard@sgi.com | (714) 756-5975 ============================================================================= From guest Tue Apr 25 10:24:22 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id KAA23140; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 10:19:33 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id KAA23137; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 10:19:32 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA14177; Tue, 25 Apr 95 10:19:27 -0700 Received: from bvr.co.il by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id KAA00714; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 10:19:11 -0700 Received: from amcor.bvr.co.il by bvr.co.il via SMTP (920330.SGI/920502.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer@sgi.com id AA09772; Tue, 25 Apr 95 20:24:47 +0300 Received: by amcor.bvr.co.il (940816.SGI.8.6.9/911001.SGI) id UAA09242; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 20:16:26 +0300 From: "Ran Yakir" Message-Id: <9504252016.ZM9240@amcor.bvr.co.il> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 20:16:23 +0000 In-Reply-To: kowsik@cory.coryphaeus.com (Kowsik Guruswamy) "LightPoints..." (Apr 25, 9:38am) References: <9504251638.AA04641@cory> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: kowsik@cory.coryphaeus.com (Kowsik Guruswamy) Subject: Re: LightPoints... Cc: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O On Apr 25, 9:38am, Kowsik Guruswamy wrote: > Subject: LightPoints... > > I looked through the man pages and couldn't find a call that I can use > to get the number of lightPoints in a pfLightPoint. > > Is there such a way or am I missing something? > > Thanks, > > K. > kowsik guruswamy > >-- End of excerpt from Kowsik Guruswamy There is an undocumented (possibly forgotten) call - long pfGetNumLPoints (pfLightPoint *lp) You can find it (and all other forgotten commands) by running 'nm' on libpf and libpr. Regards, Ran -- __ | Ran Yakir /_) _ __ \ / _ / o __ | Graphics App. Chief Engineer / )_ (_(_) ) \/ (_(_/<_(_)( | BVR Technologies Ltd. _/ | -------------------------------------+-------------------------------- Phone : | E-mail : rany@bvr.co.il Work : 972-3-5715671 | Res. : 972-9-989974 | Fax : 972-3-5715668 | From guest Tue Apr 25 22:21:02 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id WAA28226; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 22:18:55 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id WAA28223; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 22:18:54 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA16881; Tue, 25 Apr 95 22:18:53 -0700 Received: from warrane.connect.com.au by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id WAA02822; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 22:18:41 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by warrane.connect.com.au with UUCP id PAA03993 (8.6.11/IDA-1.6); Wed, 26 Apr 1995 15:17:55 +1000 Received: from aggro (aggro_e) by zebedee.wormald.com.au with SMTP id AA25626 (5.65c/IDA-1.5); Wed, 26 Apr 1995 11:59:45 +1000 Received: from krusty (krusty [8.0.0.31]) by aggro with SMTP id MAA01787 (8.6.12/IDA-1.6); Wed, 26 Apr 1995 12:01:06 +1000 Received: by krusty (5.65) id AA21406; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 12:01:05 +1000 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 12:01:04 +1000 (EST) From: Simon Bennett Subject: Re: LightPoints... To: Kowsik Guruswamy Cc: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <9504251638.AA04641@cory> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O On Tue, 25 Apr 1995, Kowsik Guruswamy wrote: > I looked through the man pages and couldn't find a call that I can use > to get the number of lightPoints in a pfLightPoint. > > Is there such a way or am I missing something? Yep. pfGetNumLPoints(). It's actually in the programmers guide and quick reference pages... but not in the reference guide or manpages... MTJ kindly sent me an updated manpage (see below) --> It's a documentation omission. I will fix it now ... there, done. Here is the newly updated man page: pfLightPoint(3pf) IRIS Performer 2.0 libpf Reference Pages pfLightPoint(3pf) NAME pfNewLPoint, pfGetNumLPoints, pfLPointSize, pfGetLPointSize, pfLPointFogScale, pfGetLPointFogScale, pfLPointColor, pfGetLPointColor, pfLPointShape, pfGetLPointShape, pfLPointRot, pfGetLPointRot, pfLPointPos, pfGetLPointPos - Set and get pfLightPoint size, color, shape, rotation and position. C SPECIFICATION #include pfLightPoint * pfNewLPoint(int num); int pfGetNumLPoints(pfLightPoint *lpoint); : DESCRIPTION A pfLightPoint is a pfNode that contains one or more light points. The light point node is quite different from a pfLightSource; it is visible as one or more self-illuminated small points but these points do not illuminate surrounding objects. In contrast to this, a pfLightSource does illuminate scene contents but is itself not a visible object. All the light points in a pfLightPoint node share all their attributes except point location and color. pfNewLPoint creates and returns a handle to a pfLightPoint node. num specifies the maximum number of individual light points the node may contain. The function pfGetNumLPoints returns this maximum number of light points that the pfLightPoint node lpoint can hold. This is the value set when the light point node was created using pfNewLPoint and is the size of the internal position and color arrays used to represent the light points. <-- +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Simon Bennett simonb@wormald.com.au Wormald Technology Advanced Systems Engineering Ph: +61 2 981 0611 (x512) Computer Terms: hardware - the part of a computer system that one can kick From guest Wed Apr 26 03:54:20 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id DAA29087; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 03:52:28 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id DAA29084; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 03:52:27 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA25364; Wed, 26 Apr 95 03:52:26 -0700 Received: from warrane.connect.com.au by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id DAA22501; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 03:52:13 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by warrane.connect.com.au with UUCP id UAA26898 (8.6.11/IDA-1.6 for info-performer@sgi.com); Wed, 26 Apr 1995 20:51:59 +1000 Received: from aggro (aggro_e) by zebedee.wormald.com.au with SMTP id AA27722 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 26 Apr 1995 16:23:31 +1000 Received: from krusty (krusty [8.0.0.31]) by aggro with SMTP id QAA02478 (8.6.12/IDA-1.6 for ); Wed, 26 Apr 1995 16:24:52 +1000 Received: by krusty (5.65) id AA07987; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 16:24:51 +1000 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 16:24:51 +1000 (EST) From: Simon Bennett Subject: Swap Ready on the Onyx To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O Hi people, I'm trying to find a way of externally testing the frame rate of my vis-sim application (outside of using pfStats). A possible method I'm currently trying is to attach a CRO to the "Swap Ready" connector on the target Onyx. The only problem is that I can't seem to get anything out of it except noise! I've connected up the CRO to the other BNC connectors on the Onyx (genlock out, composite video, sync etc..) and got what I expected... so the CRO *is* working. Does anybody know what I have to do to get information from this port? Or is what I'm trying to do make very little sense? I rang the local SGI support and they told me to use mswapbuffers() which I'd already tried from within a GL application (as mswapbuffers(NORMALDRAW)) - it didn't really make any difference. Is Swap Ready even connected? What should I be expecting to get out of it? Much Thanx for any and all help. +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Simon Bennett simonb@wormald.com.au Wormald Technology Advanced Systems Engineering Ph: +61 2 981 0611 (x512) Computer Terms: hardware - the part of a computer system that one can kick From guest Wed Apr 26 05:23:18 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id FAA29251; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 05:21:25 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id FAA29248; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 05:21:24 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA27775; Wed, 26 Apr 95 05:21:23 -0700 Received: from artcom.de by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id FAA27559; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 05:20:58 -0700 Received: by artcom.de (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.6 MX/A) id ; Wed, 26 Apr 95 14:17 MDT Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 14:17:59 +0059 (MDT) From: Henrik Tramberend Subject: Re: Swap Ready on the Onyx To: Simon Bennett Cc: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O On Wed, 26 Apr 1995, Simon Bennett wrote: > I rang the local SGI support and they told me to use mswapbuffers() > which I'd already tried from within a GL application (as > mswapbuffers(NORMALDRAW)) - it didn't really make any difference. hi, mswapbuffers(NORMALDRAW) behaves just like the normal swapbuffers() call. use mswapbuffers(NORMALDRAW | GANGDRAW) instead. the swap ready wire seems to carry a ttl level signal. henrik ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henrik Tramberend Phone: +49(30)25417.3 Art+Com e.V. Fax: +49(30)25417.555 Berlin, Germany E-Mail: henrik@artcom.de From guest Wed Apr 26 14:15:39 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id OAA15379; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 14:09:27 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id OAA15376; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 14:09:26 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA08137; Wed, 26 Apr 95 14:09:25 -0700 Received: from mercury.arl.mil by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id OAA29690; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 14:09:24 -0700 Received: by mercury.arl.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22884; Wed, 26 Apr 95 15:11:04 MDT From: mtorres@arl.mil (Torres Mario 678-3280 AMSRL-BE-M) Message-Id: <9504262111.AA22884@mercury.arl.mil> Subject: 2 GUI panels in Performer? To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Date: Wed, 26 Apr 95 15:11:04 MDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL17] Status: O Has anyone been able to setup two different GUI panels the perfly program. I've run out of space on the default panel. Now I would like to be able to toggle between different panels (two at least). I've tried setting up another pfuNewPanel and pfuEnablePanel the necessary panel but this has been without success. Are we limited to one panel? or one GUI? or one GUIViewport? Any clues will be greatly appreciated? TIA, Mario A. Torres Science and Technology Corp. for Army Research Lab. mtorres@arl.mil From guest Wed Apr 26 19:54:58 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id TAA18028; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 19:46:48 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id TAA18025; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 19:46:47 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA13919; Wed, 26 Apr 95 19:46:44 -0700 Received: from warrane.connect.com.au by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id TAA23348; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 19:46:41 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by warrane.connect.com.au with UUCP id MAA00581 (8.6.11/IDA-1.6); Thu, 27 Apr 1995 12:46:03 +1000 Received: from aggro (aggro_e) by zebedee.wormald.com.au with SMTP id AA04583 (5.65c/IDA-1.5); Thu, 27 Apr 1995 12:35:04 +1000 Received: from krusty (krusty [8.0.0.31]) by aggro with SMTP id MAA04421 (8.6.12/IDA-1.6); Thu, 27 Apr 1995 12:36:27 +1000 Received: by krusty (5.65) id AA26230; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 11:26:25 +1000 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 11:26:24 +1000 (EST) From: Simon Bennett Subject: Re: Swap Ready on the Onyx To: Henrik Tramberend Cc: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O On Wed, 26 Apr 1995, Henrik Tramberend wrote: > On Wed, 26 Apr 1995, Simon Bennett wrote: > > > I rang the local SGI support and they told me to use mswapbuffers() > > which I'd already tried from within a GL application (as > > mswapbuffers(NORMALDRAW)) - it didn't really make any difference. > > hi, > mswapbuffers(NORMALDRAW) behaves just like the normal swapbuffers() call. > use mswapbuffers(NORMALDRAW | GANGDRAW) instead. the swap ready wire > seems to carry a ttl level signal. Thanx... but I still can't seem to get this to work.... Is there anything else I have to do? Does genlock have to be running? BTW - where is the GANGDRAW flag to mswapbuffers() documented? It's not in the mswapbuffers manpage. +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Simon Bennett simonb@wormald.com.au Wormald Technology Advanced Systems Engineering Ph: +61 2 981 0611 (x512) Computer Terms: hardware - the part of a computer system that one can kick From guest Thu Apr 27 02:57:00 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id CAA19638; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 02:54:45 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id CAA19635; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 02:54:45 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA22559; Thu, 27 Apr 95 02:54:43 -0700 Received: from warrane.connect.com.au by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id CAA23751; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 02:54:35 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by warrane.connect.com.au with UUCP id PAA09342 (8.6.11/IDA-1.6 for info-performer@sgi.com); Thu, 27 Apr 1995 15:00:37 +1000 Received: from aggro (aggro_e) by zebedee.wormald.com.au with SMTP id AA05073 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 27 Apr 1995 13:38:36 +1000 Received: from krusty (krusty [8.0.0.31]) by aggro with SMTP id NAA05046 (8.6.12/IDA-1.6 for ); Thu, 27 Apr 1995 13:40:00 +1000 Received: by krusty (5.65) id AA18810; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 13:40:00 +1000 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 13:39:59 +1000 (EST) From: Robert Webb Subject: What does "Singular matrix in routine LUDCMP" mean? To: Performer mailing list Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O When I run my Performer application, I sometimes get the message: "Singular matrix in routine LUDCMP" There is no mention of LUDCMP in any gl documentation I can find. It probably just means I've got a matrix of all zeros on the stack or something, but could someone clear this up for sure. Any pointers on why this might be happening (sometimes) would also be ace. Has anyone else had this problem? Thanks, Rob. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Robert Webb. robertw@wormald.com.au ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From guest Wed Apr 26 22:39:17 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id WAA18896; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 22:35:29 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id WAA18893; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 22:35:24 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA17736; Wed, 26 Apr 95 22:35:13 -0700 Received: from holodeck.asd.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) id WAA09122; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 22:35:10 -0700 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id WAA18885; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 22:34:51 -0700 From: aschaffe (Allan Schaffer) Message-Id: <9504262234.ZM18883@holodeck.asd.sgi.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 22:34:51 -0700 In-Reply-To: Simon Bennett "Re: Swap Ready on the Onyx" (Apr 27, 11:26am) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail-SGI (3.2S.1 10apr95 MediaMail) To: Simon Bennett , Henrik Tramberend Subject: Re: Swap Ready on the Onyx Cc: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O On Apr 27, 11:26am, Simon Bennett wrote: > Thanx... but I still can't seem to get this to work.... Is there > anything else I have to do? Does genlock have to be running? Yes -- there are 3 general steps to take when synchronizing swapbuffers on multiple pipes: - the wiring of the genlock and swap ready signals - genlocking the pipes, - and the use of mswapbuffers. I have a (long) cookbook-style document describing swapready, written by one of the RealityEngine engineers. It's a bit dated now -- the example program could use updating, as do a few things that the text says to never do. For example, the part about never changing the cursor may have been specific to releases prior to 5.3. It should serve as an excellent reference. I'll append below. > BTW - where is the GANGDRAW flag to mswapbuffers() documented? It's not > in the mswapbuffers manpage. I've discovered that GANGDRAW is the new word for DUALDRAW. Both DUALDRAW and GANGDRAW are #define'd to be 0x200 in gl/gl.h right now. Allan ----------------------- GangDraw (also called Swap Ready) operation =========================================== GangDraw is a mechanism that permits multiple graphics pipelines to swap at precisely the same time. This is particularly useful in simulators, where multiple screens (e.g. a front and two side views) must be synchronized to all update simultaneously. GangDraw is NOT designed as a general-purpose synchronization mechanism. It is targeted exclusively for the simulator market; as such, it has several restrictions and limitations. Within these limits, it works well; but it is easy to violate these limits, and the result is usually a crashed or hung graphics pipeline. Overview -------- To set up a system for GangDraw operation, you must follow these steps: 1) Ensure that all hardware is correct; 2) Ensure that all system software is correct; 3) Cable the system correctly; 4) Genlock the pipes together; 5) Run a test program to verify the setup; 6) Modify your software; 7) Pay attention to the GangDraw restrictions. 1) Hardware Prerequisites ------------------------- You MUST have up-to-date hardware, or GangDraw mode will not work. DG2 (the display board of the RealityEngine): the small eight-pin PAL with part number 1045 must be at revision 5 or later. Part 1045-005 with checksum 167C is good; 1045-004 30AC is bad. A test program is provided below that will help in determining if the DG2 is out of date. EF# (the plate with the video output connectors): early versions of the output panel were missing a resistor, and had no output on the SYNC BNC connector. This means you cannot use this pipe as a sync source for genlock. 2) Software Prerequisites ------------------------- You MUST be running Irix 5.2 or later. All GangDraw support is built in to the graphics code; there is no special subsystem to load. 3) System Cabling ----------------- First, the pipelines must be genlocked together. This involves selecting a sync source, and distributing it to all graphics pipes. You can either use one graphics pipeline as the sync source, or use an external sync source; this depends on your overall system configuration. Most installations use one pipe as the sync master; and they usually select pipe 0 as the master. (It doesn't matter which pipe is the master; but selecting pipe 0 makes it easier to remember). Then, you connect all of the `Swap Ready' BNC connectors together. You may use BNC `T' connectors if necessary. DO NOT use a terminator on this line! Below are sample cable configurations (please excuse the ASCII graphics): Two pipes, pipe 0 serving as master: Pipe 0 Pipe 1 Master Slave swap rdy o)-------------------(o sync out o)-------- o \ sync in o ----------(o sync loop o x ^= 75 ohm terminator Three pipes, pipe 0 serving as master: Pipe 0 Pipe 1 Pipe 2 Master Slave Slave swap rdy o)-------------------(o)-------------------(o sync out o)-------- o o \ sync in o ----------(o ----------(o / sync loop o o)-------- x ^= 75 ohm Two pipes, external sync source: Pipe 0 Pipe 1 Slave Slave swap rdy o)-------------------(o sync out o o sync in -----(o ----------(o / sync loop o)-------- x ^= 75 ohm terminator Three pipes, external sync source: Pipe 0 Pipe 1 Pipe 2 Slave Slave Slave swap rdy o)-------------------(o)-------------------(o sync out o o o sync in -----(o ----------(o ----------(o / / sync loop o)-------- o)-------- x ^= 75 ohm 4) Genlock all pipes together ----------------------------- You must select a common VOF for all pipes. You cannot run in genlocked mode with different VOFs running. If you are using an external sync source, then that source must exactly match the timing of your selected VOF. For the examples below, we will use the normal hires VOF, 1280x1024_60. On the `master' pipe, select the format normally. For example: setenv DISPLAY :0 /usr/gfx/setmon -x 1280x1024_60 On all `slave' pipes, select the format, and specify external genlock with the -g flag. For example: setenv DISPLAY :1 /usr/gfx/setmon -g -x 1280x1024_60 setenv DISPLAY :2 /usr/gfx/setmon -g -x 1280x1024_60 Then restart graphics with the new VOFs: /usr/gfx/stopgfx; /usr/gfx/startgfx & (If you are familiar with the use of setmon, you may also do the above interactively with the -n flag if you wish; however, restarting the graphics is recommended, as this resets all of the GangDraw state variables). Unfortunately, there is no good way to verify that all pipes are actually genlocked together without a dual-trace oscilliscope. 5) Testing the setup -------------------- The first thing to do is to verify normal system operation. All normal (i.e. non-GangDraw) programs should run normally. Verify this first. If normal programs hang, or if the graphics pipe crashes, the system is cabled incorrectly. If the system runs normally, then enter and compile the sample program at the end of this document. (You should compile it on your own system, and not use a pre-compiled binary, so that you know that you have the correct libraries installed). One very important note: NEVER kill this program with a `kill -9' or similar statement. The proper way to exit the program is by hitting the escape key (with the cursor in it's window, of course!). If you exit it by sending it a kill signal, it may leave internal variables in a strange state, and any future tests run on the system will be invalid. If you accidentally kill the program in this way, restart the graphics (by /usr/gfx/stopgfx; /usr/gfx/startgfx &) to reset the system to a known working state. Now, run the program with no argument on pipe 0. It should put up a 300 x 300 black rectangle with a zero in the corner. The colour of the rectangle will slowly change, as the number in the corner increments. The rate of change (assuming a lightly loaded system) should be smooth; over time the program will very gradually slow down, but the program should never visibly stop. If the program stops, disconnect the swap ready cable (see step 4) from this pipe. If the program continues, there is something wrong with the cabling; the line is terminated in some manner. If the program stops with no cables connected, then the DG2 is out of date. The most likely cause is an out-of date PAL #1045; check this for the correct revision. (An out-of-date PAL will cause the test program to stop at certain specific numbers, but not others). Once the program has run smoothly for 10 seconds or so, exit it via the ESC key, and try it on the other pipeline(s), one at a time. If the program runs smoothly on each pipeline individually, then you are ready for a final test. Run the program with a small argument (e.g. gangdraw 10) on one pipeline. It should run smoothly, and quickly. Now, run the program with a large argument (e.g. gangdraw 500) on another pipeline (NOT on the same pipeline!). That program should run smoothly, but slowly; and the original program should slow down to the same speed as the second one. If the first program does not slow down, check that the swap ready cables are attached. If the programs run fine individually, but the pipes hang when you try to run them together, then the pipes are not genlocked together. In fact, 99.9% of the time GangDraw isn't working, it's because of genlock problems. 6) Software Modifications ------------------------- To modify an existing program to use the GangDraw mechanism is quite easy. You change existing calls to swapbuffers() or mswapbuffers() to include the GANGDRAW parameter. First, change all instances of swapbuffers(); to mswapbuffers(NORMALDRAW); which are exactly equivilent statements. Next, whenever you want to have a synchronized swap (i.e. all pipes swap simultaneously), add the GANGDRAW parameter to the mswapbuffers call; e.g. change mswapbuffers(NORMALDRAW); to mswapbuffers(NORMALDRAW | GANGDRAW); You should read the restrictions below before modifying a program. Also, you must take care to undo the GangDraw mechanism before exiting the program; this can be done by simply calling mswapbuffers(NORMALDRAW), i.e. without the GANGDRAW parameter, which turns GangDraw off. See the sample code below (gangdraw.c). 7) GangDraw Restrictions ------------------------ First, you may run one, and ONLY one, GangDraw program per pipeline. This mechanism serves only to synchronize pipelines to each other; it cannot be used to synchronize two programs running on the same pipe. You must also exit the program cleanly; the only way that the GL knows that you are exiting your GangDraw application is if you call mswapbuffers without the GANGDRAW argument. Otherwise, the pipeline will hold on to the Swap Ready output line, which will prevent a GangDraw program from running on any other pipeline. Another major restriction is that you MUST not change the shape of the cursor while running a GangDraw program. Changing the cursor shape can cause a fatal pipe crash. Note that this implies that a GangDraw program is a full-screen application only, since 4Dwm changes the shape of the cursor as you cross a window border. (Note that it is the act of loading a cursor that causes the crash, and not the actual change in shape; so even reloading the exact same glyph as is currently active will cause this crash). If you must run with multiple windows active, you should disable visible cursors completely within the window manager to avoid this problem. One minor restriction is that you must swap at least once every second or so. If you stop swapping for longer than a second, the graphics pipeline will time out (there is a watchdog that checks for at least some activity every so often). In practice, most simulations should update themselves at least this often. It is also worth mentioning that, when a pipe is being delayed, ALL graphics activity on that pipe is halted, even activity in other, unrelated windows. In practice, since this is designed for full-screen windows only, this should not be a problem. /* * gangdraw.c * * A test program for the GangDraw feature on RealityEngine. * Also serves as sample code. * * compile with: cc -o gangdraw gangdraw.c -lgl */ #include #include #include #include int main(int argc, char **argv) { int clear_count = 1; long vidreg, color = 0; int n, i; char ntimes[20]; long queued; short dummy; if (argc > 1) clear_count = atoi(argv[1]); foreground(); prefposition(200, 599, 500, 899); winopen(argv[0]); doublebuffer(); RGBmode(); gconfig(); qdevice(ESCKEY); for (n = 0; ; n++) { while (qtest()) { queued = qread(&dummy); if (queued == ESCKEY) { mswapbuffers(NORMALDRAW); gexit(); } } cpack(color++); for (i = 0; i < clear_count; i++) clear(); cmov2i(8, 8); cpack(0x00ffffff); sprintf(ntimes, "%8d", n); charstr(ntimes); if (n < 1) mswapbuffers(NORMALDRAW); else mswapbuffers(GANGDRAW|NORMALDRAW); } } -- Allan Schaffer aschaffe@sgi.com Silicon Graphics http://reality.sgi.com/employees/aschaffe From guest Wed Apr 26 22:57:52 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id WAA18988; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 22:54:32 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id WAA18985; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 22:54:32 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA18128; Wed, 26 Apr 95 22:54:27 -0700 Received: from holodeck.asd.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) id WAA10377; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 22:54:25 -0700 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id WAA18945; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 22:43:56 -0700 From: aschaffe (Allan Schaffer) Message-Id: <9504262243.ZM18943@holodeck.asd.sgi.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 22:43:56 -0700 In-Reply-To: diddy@netcom.com (Tran Thai) "offscreen rendering" (Apr 17, 10:32am) References: <199504171732.KAA11509@netcom.netcom.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail-SGI (3.2S.1 10apr95 MediaMail) To: diddy@netcom.com (Tran Thai), info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Re: offscreen rendering Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O On Apr 17, 10:32am, Tran Thai wrote: > > What is the recomended methode to render a frame offscreen? > > On a small system I want to render the animation offscreen > and save each frame has a .jpeg image to be latter playedback > realtime with a cosmo compress card. Unfortunately this is fairly difficult in the current release of Performer. IRIS GL (the rendering toolkit used by Performer) does not provide any functionality for off-screen rendering. Luckily, the Performer 2.0's use of OpenGL will make this much simpler. Assuming it works the way I expect, you should be able to render directly to an off-screen buffer (pixmap). This is a slower rendering path because it forgoes any available hardware acceleration, but allows you to use Xlib calls to write the pixmap to a file, display it, or whatever. For now, your best bet is to incorporate use of a program like "/usr/sbin/scrsave" (from eoe2.sw.gltools in 5.3) into your application, or run it by hand. The source to scrsave is shipped in 4Dgifts.sw.iristools. Good luck, Allan -- Allan Schaffer aschaffe@sgi.com Silicon Graphics http://reality.sgi.com/employees/aschaffe From guest Wed Apr 26 23:22:39 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id XAA19175; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 23:19:42 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id XAA19172; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 23:19:41 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA18575; Wed, 26 Apr 95 23:19:40 -0700 Received: from holodeck.asd.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) id XAA12194; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 23:19:38 -0700 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id XAA19169; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 23:19:03 -0700 From: aschaffe (Allan Schaffer) Message-Id: <9504262319.ZM19167@holodeck.asd.sgi.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 23:19:02 -0700 In-Reply-To: Masahiko Yamanaka "ptu on IRIX5.3" (Apr 21, 5:01pm) References: <14907.798451313@dimwit.dst.nk-exa.co.jp> X-Mailer: Z-Mail-SGI (3.2S.1 10apr95 MediaMail) To: wry@dst.nk-exa.co.jp, info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Re: ptu on IRIX5.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O On Apr 21, 5:01pm, Masahiko Yamanaka wrote: > I'm using LoadPtu(). > It's nice on the Indigo/R4000-Entry(IRIX5.2), > but seems not to work on Onyx-RE2(IRIX5.3). > I re-compiled on Onyx. > > (dbx) run wry64.ptu > Process 8327 (perfly.OPT) stopped on signal SIGSEGV: Segmentation > violation (default) [_usgetinfo:243 ,0xfb006d4] > Source (of usconfig.c) not available for Process 8327 > (dbx) where > 0 _usgetinfo() > 1 ilAuxBuffer::init(void) > > Does anyone know what was wrong ? I had some reports of this very same problem of PTU crashing deep within the IL, perhaps 6 months ago, but they disappeared mysteriously and I was never able to determine what had caused them. My assumption is that it is caused by a versions problem. Questions to ask would be, what version of the ImageVision library are you running, are you sure that it is the correct and most up-to-date version for 5.3, and are you certain that the installation went smoothly? At one point I was able to reproduce the problem, but then I reloaded the OS on the machine (a disk crashed, as I recall) and never saw the problem again. Allan -- Allan Schaffer aschaffe@sgi.com Silicon Graphics http://reality.sgi.com/employees/aschaffe From guest Thu Apr 27 01:17:04 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id BAA19504; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 01:07:21 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id BAA19501; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 01:07:21 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA21161; Thu, 27 Apr 95 01:07:19 -0700 Received: from gatekeeper.prl.philips.co.uk by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id BAA18692; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 01:07:09 -0700 Received: by gatekeeper.prl.philips.co.uk (4.1/UNIPALM-Vevision: 1.3 gatekeeper.prl.philips.co.uk) id AA24005; Thu, 27 Apr 95 08:06:28 GMT Received: from unknown(130.141.10.82) by gatekeeper via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma023996; Thu Apr 27 08:05:48 1995 Received: from prsun11 by prlhp1.prl.philips.co.uk; Thu, 27 Apr 95 09:04:19 +0100 Received: from sal (sal [150.5.15.4]) by prsun11 (8.6.12/prsun11) with ESMTP id JAA21401 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 09:02:01 +0100 Received: (gallery@localhost) by sal (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA07419 for info-performer@sgi.com; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 08:02:38 GMT From: "Richard Gallery" Message-Id: <9504270902.ZM7417@unknown.zmail.host> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 09:02:38 +0100 In-Reply-To: aschaffe@holodeck.asd.sgi.com (Allan Schaffer) "Re: offscreen rendering" (Apr 26, 10:43pm) References: <199504171732.KAA11509@netcom.netcom.com> <9504262243.ZM18943@holodeck.asd.sgi.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Re: offscreen rendering Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O Hi What I have done to render offscreen is not exactly off-screen, but is a lot faster than ignoring the hardware assist like the email from Tran Thai suggested Performer 2.0 might support. Basically, within a Performer draw callback, I use lrectread to get the contents of the framebuffer area being used by the current gl window, and save that to a file. Having done it, I can't say it was difficult, but it seemed to be a lot of work to do something that seemed like an obvious task (basically saying, wouldn't it be nice to have soime of those animations I've done through Performer on a video tape, or accessed digitally so I could do a bit of image processing on them). Of course you still get the pictures rendered to the screen as well, which is not a problem for me, and it's not real time (unless you have a very small window), but is a reasonable fraction of it. Anyway, I've always (rather naively perhaps) assumed that this would be supplied as an option through the Performer API eventually. Could someone clear up exactly what will be available through Performer 2.0 in this respect. Thanks Richard From guest Thu Apr 27 07:24:54 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id HAA19932; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 07:23:07 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id HAA19929; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 07:23:06 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA26216; Thu, 27 Apr 95 07:23:05 -0700 Received: from sgihub.corp.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) id HAA10430; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 07:22:59 -0700 Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by sgihub.corp.sgi.com via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/911001.SGI) id HAA13222; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 07:06:49 -0700 Received: from babar.asd.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for @sgihub.corp.sgi.com:gallery@prl.philips.co.uk id AA25931; Thu, 27 Apr 95 07:06:47 -0700 Received: by babar.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id HAA19960; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 07:06:46 -0700 From: "Michael Jones" Message-Id: <9504270706.ZM19958@babar.asd.sgi.com> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 07:06:44 -0700 In-Reply-To: "Richard Gallery" "Re: offscreen rendering" (Apr 27, 9:02am) References: <199504171732.KAA11509@netcom.netcom.com> <9504262243.ZM18943@holodeck.asd.sgi.com> <9504270902.ZM7417@unknown.zmail.host> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: "Richard Gallery" , info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Re: offscreen rendering Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O On Apr 27, 9:02am, Richard Gallery wrote: > Subject: Re: offscreen rendering :Basically, within a Performer draw callback, I use lrectread :to get the contents of the framebuffer area being used by the :current gl window, and save that to a file. [...] :Anyway, I've always (rather naively perhaps) assumed that this :would be supplied as an option through the Performer API :eventually. Take a look at "snapwin.c" in the pfutil library. Also, check out the 'x' key in perfly -- it uses the functions in snapwin.c to write the screen image to a named file. The functions are also listed in your IRIS Performer Reference Card. :Could someone clear up exactly what will be available :through Performer 2.0 in this respect. We added the ability to snapshot either RGB or RGBA to snapwin.c but did not make these features an integral part of IRIS Performer. I'd presumed that the sources would be enough "documentation", but perhaps we need to add a description of the pfutil code to the Programmer's Guide so that people will know what features are there. Michael Jones -- Be seeing you, Phone:415.390.1455 Fax:415.965.2658 M/S:8U-590 Michael T. Jones Silicon Graphics, Advanced Graphics Division mtj@sgi.com 2011 N. Shoreline Blvd., Mtn. View, CA 94039-7311 From guest Thu Apr 27 07:17:07 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id HAA19924; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 07:15:20 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id HAA19921; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 07:15:20 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA26100; Thu, 27 Apr 95 07:15:19 -0700 Received: from sgihub.corp.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) id HAA09749; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 07:15:11 -0700 Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by sgihub.corp.sgi.com via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/911001.SGI) id HAA13957; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 07:15:08 -0700 Received: from babar.asd.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for @sgihub.corp.sgi.com:robertw@wormald.COM.AU id AA26090; Thu, 27 Apr 95 07:15:06 -0700 Received: by babar.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id HAA20557; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 07:15:05 -0700 From: "Michael Jones" Message-Id: <9504270715.ZM20554@babar.asd.sgi.com> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 07:15:03 -0700 In-Reply-To: Robert Webb "What does "Singular matrix in routine LUDCMP" mean?" (Apr 27, 1:39pm) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: Robert Webb , Performer mailing list Subject: Re: What does "Singular matrix in routine LUDCMP" mean? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O On Apr 27, 1:39pm, Robert Webb wrote: > Subject: What does "Singular matrix in routine LUDCMP" mean? : :When I run my Performer application, I sometimes get the message: : :"Singular matrix in routine LUDCMP" : :There is no mention of LUDCMP in any gl documentation I can find. It :probably just means I've got a matrix of all zeros on the stack or :something, but could someone clear this up for sure. Any pointers on why :this might be happening (sometimes) would also be ace. Good point. The warning was not sufficiently specific. This warning is from the "Lower-Upper-Decomposition" routine that's part of IRIS Performer's pfInvertMat() function. Not all matrices can be inverted, just as the scalar zero has no multiplicative inverse. In the case of matrices, it's those with one or more zeroes on the main diagonal. When we try to invert such a matrix, the function pfLUDecompMat() prints the warning and returns a failure notice to pfInvertMat(), which returns a failure notice in turn. :Has anyone else had this problem? Ever since Sir William Rowan Hamilton developed the notion of matrices, people worldwide have had this problem. ;-) -- Be seeing you, Phone:415.390.1455 Fax:415.965.2658 M/S:8U-590 Michael T. Jones Silicon Graphics, Advanced Graphics Division mtj@sgi.com 2011 N. Shoreline Blvd., Mtn. View, CA 94039-7311 From guest Thu Apr 27 09:12:43 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id JAA20116; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 09:10:19 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id JAA20113; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 09:10:19 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA29100; Thu, 27 Apr 95 09:10:17 -0700 Received: from vsl.ist.ucf.edu by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id JAA22139; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 09:10:11 -0700 Received: from osiris.vsl.ist.ucf.edu by vsl.ist.ucf.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03905; Thu, 27 Apr 95 12:06:48 EDT From: fred@vsl.ist.ucf.edu (ALFREDO) Received: by osiris.vsl.ist.ucf.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9) id MAA18833; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 12:00:11 -0400 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 12:00:11 -0400 Message-Id: <199504271600.MAA18833@osiris.vsl.ist.ucf.edu> To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Performer and DIS Status: O Hello all, not been the perfect mathematician I should, I am having problems to find a simple transformation matrix to translate DIS body coordinates and orientation to Performer's and vice-versa. I am sure there is someone out there who already dealt with that in 5 seconds..... Thanks for any help ____________________ / \ ! TAZ for ! ! PRESIDENT ! \____________________/ ! ! ! ! L_ ! / _)! "%@&*&*&(*()*^(()^(% ", he said / /__L _____/ (____) Al Fredo (____) _____ (____) \_(____) ! ! ! ! \__/ From guest Thu Apr 27 12:14:06 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id MAA20423; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 12:10:33 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id MAA20420; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 12:10:32 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA07870; Thu, 27 Apr 95 12:10:28 -0700 Received: from vsl.ist.ucf.edu by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id MAA27759; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 12:10:24 -0700 Received: from eclipse.vsl.ist.ucf.edu by vsl.ist.ucf.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04814; Thu, 27 Apr 95 14:53:23 EDT From: hall@vsl.ist.ucf.edu (Gary Hall - (Kimberly Abel)) Received: by eclipse.vsl.ist.ucf.edu (4.1) id AA10383; Thu, 27 Apr 95 14:51:11 EDT Message-Id: <9504271851.AA10383@eclipse.vsl.ist.ucf.edu> Subject: Re: What does "Singular matrix in routine LUDCMP" mean? To: guest (Michael Jones) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 95 14:51:10 EDT Cc: robertw@wormald.com.au, info-performer@sgi.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <9504270715.ZM20554@babar.asd.sgi.com>; from "Michael Jones" at Apr 27, 95 7:15 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL0] Status: O > > On Apr 27, 1:39pm, Robert Webb wrote: > > Subject: What does "Singular matrix in routine LUDCMP" mean? > : > :When I run my Performer application, I sometimes get the message: > : > :"Singular matrix in routine LUDCMP" > : > :There is no mention of LUDCMP in any gl documentation I can find. It > :probably just means I've got a matrix of all zeros on the stack or > :something, but could someone clear this up for sure. Any pointers on why > :this might be happening (sometimes) would also be ace. > > Good point. The warning was not sufficiently specific. This warning > is from the "Lower-Upper-Decomposition" routine that's part of > IRIS Performer's pfInvertMat() function. Not all matrices can be > inverted, just as the scalar zero has no multiplicative inverse. In the > case of matrices, it's those with one or more zeroes on the main > diagonal. When we try to invert such a matrix, the function > pfLUDecompMat() prints the warning and returns a failure notice > to pfInvertMat(), which returns a failure notice in turn. > > :Has anyone else had this problem? > Sometimes I get the error: gl_invert3d: ERR_SINGMATRIX Which is a gl error, but happens in my Performer app. Sounds similar to above error. -- Gary Hall 407-658-0041 From guest Thu Apr 27 21:27:52 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id VAA23597; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 21:25:48 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id VAA23594; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 21:25:47 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA02824; Thu, 27 Apr 95 21:25:46 -0700 Received: from pike.cecer.army.mil by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id VAA07902; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 21:25:44 -0700 Received: from lee.cecer.army.mil (lee.cecer.army.mil [129.229.32.11]) by pike.cecer.army.mil (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA14993; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 23:25:42 -0500 From: "Eric S. Hirschorn" Message-Id: <199504280425.XAA14993@pike.cecer.army.mil> Subject: Single-processor, fixing frame rate To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 23:23:06 -0500 (CDT) Cc: erich@pike.cecer.army.mil X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 700 Status: O We're trying to get a Performer 1.2 application to stop doing a "free run" on a single processor Crimson (IRIX 5.2), but without success. The code we're testing is a modified perfly. Our method of testing is to set up pfSync or pfVClockSync so as to make the simulation run at 1 Hz, so it should appear to run really slow. We've tried using pfSync with pfPhase(PFPHASE_LOCK), pfPhase(PFPHASE_LIMIT), and setting the pfFrameRate. Also, we have tried pfVClockSync. Do all of the Performer real-time synchronization routines assume a multiprocessor machine? Or should we be falling back on IRIX Real-time features such as interval timers, signals, and so forth? Eric erich@pike.cecer.army.mil From guest Thu Apr 27 23:04:47 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id XAA23692; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 23:02:24 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id XAA23689; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 23:02:23 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA07039; Thu, 27 Apr 95 23:02:22 -0700 Received: from sgihub.corp.sgi.com by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) id XAA15925; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 23:02:20 -0700 Received: from sgiger.munich.sgi.com by sgihub.corp.sgi.com via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/911001.SGI) id XAA24980; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 23:02:16 -0700 Received: from sgihan.hannover.sgi.com by sgiger.munich.sgi.com via SMTP (911016.SGI/911001.SGI) for info-performer@sgi.sgi.com id AA02123; Fri, 28 Apr 95 08:01:30 +0200 Received: from elwood.hannover.sgi.com by sgihan.hannover.sgi.com via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id HAA14421; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 07:58:19 +0200 Received: by elwood.hannover.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id HAA16369; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 07:58:16 +0200 From: "Axel Sammet" Message-Id: <9504280758.ZM16367@elwood.hannover.sgi.com> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 07:58:16 +0000 In-Reply-To: Simon Bennett "Swap Ready on the Onyx" (Apr 26, 16:24) References: X-Face: %BF3$'?$)#p&@-.1*c72Cz/H4?x1i3iBWMbb1#mz6NKfMb}-Lv@@1dqU#3Yb@PTVm@ui#]@ 2]L/vOL[CZ{*FbsNs=gbZ8S-oJb7|0;.Os~S3nDH@CUZQ]J*XyqX ZSz.YX}_v_j>@YVxsy5Tbpg$+_@;T8jTK9xueFT}Q5x1*"+gz0 X-Mailer: Z-Mail-SGI (3.0S.1026 26oct93 MediaMail) To: Simon Bennett , info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Re: Swap Ready on the Onyx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: O Hi Simon, i had a similar problem in the past which made me think the SwapReady may not be connected. And indeed: There is a black/red twisted cable connected to the DG2 Board. This cable may be connected to two different pairs of pins which are about 1 1/2 inch apart. If this cable is connected to the upper pins , the SwapReady will only show noise, while being connected to the lower pins the SwapReady delivers the correct signals. Let me know if this helps to solve your problem. Regards Axel -- ______________________________________________________________________ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ Axel Sammet Visual Simulation, Digital Media, CAD/CAM Silicon Graphics GmbH | Tel: +49 511 9017216 Ahrensburger Strasse 3 | Fax: +49 511 6138115 30659 Hannover | VM #: 59191 M/S: IHA-314 Germany | E-Mail: axel@hannover.sgi.com ______________________________________________________________________ From guest Fri Apr 28 01:08:54 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id BAA24044; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 01:04:50 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id BAA24041; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 01:04:50 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA10202; Fri, 28 Apr 95 01:04:49 -0700 Received: from pigeon.cf.ac.uk by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id BAA23165; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 01:04:43 -0700 Received: from thor.cf.ac.uk by pigeon.cf.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <04105-0@pigeon.cf.ac.uk>; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 09:03:35 +0100 Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 09:04:01 +0100 (BST) From: ROY RUDDLE Reply-To: Ruddle@cardiff.ac.uk To: "Eric S. Hirschorn" Cc: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: Re: Single-processor, fixing frame rate In-Reply-To: <199504280425.XAA14993@pike.cecer.army.mil> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O I run 1.2 on a Crimson RE + can do this using pfFrameRate and pfPhase Not sure of 1Hz will cause a problem though. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Roy Ruddle, Principal Researcher | School of Psychology Tel: 01222 874523 (direct) | University of Wales College of Cardiff 01222 874007 (messages) | PO Box 901 Fax: 01222 874858 | Cardiff CF1 3YG Email: Ruddle@CARDIFF.AC.UK | UK From guest Fri Apr 28 01:16:22 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id BAA24057; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 01:11:41 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id BAA24054; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 01:11:40 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA10445; Fri, 28 Apr 95 01:11:38 -0700 Received: from bcserver.estec.esa.nl by sgi.sgi.com via SMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) for id BAA23678; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 01:11:35 -0700 From: simon@wgs.estec.esa.nl Received: from pegasus.wgs.estec.esa.nl by bcserver.estec.esa.nl (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA28437; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 09:25:24 +0200 Received: from centauri.wgs.estec.esa.nl by wgs.estec.esa.nl (4.1/WGS1.0server) Fri, 28 Apr 95 09:25:22 +0200 Received: by centauri.wgs.estec.esa.nl (5.0/WGS1.0client) Fri, 28 Apr 95 09:26:31 +0100 Date: Fri, 28 Apr 95 09:26:31 +0100 Message-Id: <9504280826.AA05733@centauri.wgs.estec.esa.nl> To: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com Subject: libpfutil GUI font corruption Cc: dick@demeern.sgi.com X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Content-Length: 1115 Status: O Hi, I'm making an application based on the Perfly demo and I'm using the Performer GUI utilities in the libpfutil library. I want to draw overlaid text using the Font Manager but unfortunately this appears to corrupt the GUI fonts which also use the Font Manager. The GUI functions assume the current font has not changed between redraws. Unfortunately the Font Manager does not allow you to inquire the current font so there appears to be no way to restore the GUI font. A workaround is to press F1 twice forcing the whole GUI to be redrawn but this is not satisfactory. Any suggestions? I'm using Performer 1.2, IRIX 5.3 on an Onyx RE2. Regards, Simon ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Simon Mills System Simulation Section (WAS) European Space Research And Technology Centre (ESTEC) Postbus 299 e-mail: simon@wgs.estec.esa.nl 2200AG Noordwijk phone: +31-(0)1719-83725 The Netherlands fax: +31-(0)1719-85419 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From guest Fri Apr 28 04:45:19 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id EAA24300; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 04:43:28 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id EAA24297; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 04:43:27 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA14850; Fri, 28 Apr 95 04:43:26 -0700 Received: from warrane.connect.com.au by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) id EAA07133; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 04:43:13 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by warrane.connect.com.au with UUCP id VAA05801 (8.6.11/IDA-1.6); Fri, 28 Apr 1995 21:43:02 +1000 Received: from aggro (aggro_e) by zebedee.wormald.com.au with SMTP id AA14579 (5.65c/IDA-1.5); Fri, 28 Apr 1995 20:39:34 +1000 Received: from krusty (krusty [8.0.0.31]) by aggro with SMTP id UAA08815 (8.6.12/IDA-1.6); Fri, 28 Apr 1995 20:41:02 +1000 Received: by krusty (5.65) id AA28341; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 20:41:01 +1000 Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 20:41:01 +1000 (EST) From: Simon Bennett Subject: Re: Swap Ready on the Onyx To: Axel Sammet Cc: info-performer@sgi.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <9504280758.ZM16367@elwood.hannover.sgi.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O On Fri, 28 Apr 1995, Axel Sammet wrote: > Hi Simon, > > i had a similar problem in the past which made me think the SwapReady may > not be connected. > And indeed: > There is a black/red twisted cable connected to the DG2 Board. This cable > may be connected to two different pairs of pins which are about 1 1/2 inch > apart. If this cable is connected to the upper pins , the SwapReady will > only show noise, while being connected to the lower pins the SwapReady > delivers the correct signals. YES!!! Pipe #0 had the cable connected to the upper pins! Swapped it to the lower connector and BINGO! > Let me know if this helps to solve your problem. Yep. Now it's definitely working under GL. Performer seems to be less fussed about it working OK thou... Does anybody know why? BTW - I've been led to believe that the upper pins are some sort of connector for stereo goggles. +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Simon Bennett simonb@wormald.com.au Wormald Technology Advanced Systems Engineering Ph: +61 2 981 0611 (x512) Computer Terms: hardware - the part of a computer system that one can kick From guest Fri Apr 28 14:22:04 1995 Received: by holodeck.asd.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for info-performer-dist id OAA25672; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 14:19:12 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from giraffe.asd.sgi.com by holodeck.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id OAA25669; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 14:19:11 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by giraffe.asd.sgi.com via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for info-performer@holodeck.asd.sgi.com id AA09777; Fri, 28 Apr 95 14:19:10 -0700 Received: from well.sf.ca.us by sgi.sgi.com via ESMTP (950405.SGI.8.6.12/910110.SGI) id OAA05743; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 14:19:06 -0700 Received: (from stereo@localhost) by well.sf.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA07599; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 14:18:30 -0700 Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 14:18:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Crane Subject: Re: Swap Ready on the Onyx To: Simon Bennett Cc: Axel Sammet , info-performer@sgi.sgi.com In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O Yes, The top row on J5 is the stereo timming for the StereoGraphics CrystalEyes glasses. This should connect down to J2 on the PPD board (I/O). On Fri, 28 Apr 1995, Simon Bennett wrote: > On Fri, 28 Apr 1995, Axel Sammet wrote: > > > Hi Simon, > > > > i had a similar problem in the past which made me think the SwapReady may > > not be connected. > > And indeed: > > There is a black/red twisted cable connected to the DG2 Board. This cable > > may be connected to two different pairs of pins which are about 1 1/2 inch > > apart. If this cable is connected to the upper pins , the SwapReady will > > only show noise, while being connected to the lower pins the SwapReady > > delivers the correct signals. > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > Simon Bennett simonb@wormald.com.au > Wormald Technology Advanced Systems Engineering Ph: +61 2 981 0611 (x512) > > Computer Terms: hardware - the part of a computer system that one can kick > > > >